boati

and also boiling drinking water in it? You'd have to do both 4x a day. To hell with that noise. You could never cover any ground or get anything else done. Carry TWO nested canteen cups, and a water filter/treatment chemicals. Cook TWO quarts of soup/stew ONCE a day, and that's it. It takes an hour each time counting gathering the firewood, getting the fire going, waiting for coals to cook with, putting out the fire properly. So Why waste 3 hours a day, when you can carry half a lb of gear and not have to bother with it.? This is to say nothing of the risk of fire when hostiles are about. If you can't eat all of the 2 qts of food at once, tie the lid onto the full canteen, wrap it tightly in a ziplock bag and a dry bag, put it at the top of your BOB and eat it cold later. When I lived in the van, I ate many a can of ChefBoyArdee ravioli and beanie wienies cold. It's not that bad once you get used to it. There is zero reason to start out a bugout with food that requires cooking. I once did 6 weeks, in prison, testing to see if peanut butter, oatmeal and Tang ws enough of a trail food to keep me going. I ate nothing but those three items and I noticed no drop in performance at my pretty intense workout routine. This was 1989, prior to my escape from Terre Haute camp.

John in AR

Never heard the entire escape story; just bits & pieces. What was the real story?

Garand

Apparently it makes a real good survivalist fiction story!


Posted by Terry G in 2004;

You said you escaped from USP Terre Haute, everybody read your lie. You don't "escape" from a camp, your a "walk away" that nobody even searches for. The U.S. Marshall's Service is notified and they rather boredly, wait for you to go home and pick you up. You never did this. There is NO escape in your record. You try to portray yourself as some reckless outlaw, when in fact your a pathetic loser that got caught every time he broke the law. You were arrested three times by Federal Authorities and never once put up the least amount of resistance. The last time they called you on the phone and told you to come in, which you meekly did. And by the way, a camp is a release facility, who, that had the IQ of dry cereal, would "escape" from one? You just sound more and more pathetic. I KNOW your record, John. You can try to lie to other members of the Forum, but I know you.

Dorobuta

You can boil water very easily over twigs using a lightweight stove made from a coffee can, or with a little effort you can do it with rocks and dirt.

If it takes you an hour to get the material to boil water, then you really have no practical experience.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

Garand

Melvin, my webbing (your LBE) has had 2 canteens and 2 canteen cups on it for decades. One cup was for washing, you know, so I didn't get sick and the other was for eating. Sitting in a broken down van "spanking the monkey" is not what most people consider survival. Hot food when you are in a cold, hostile environment is a great moral boost for most people. Where I live putting your food in a zip lock bag will do nothing but let it freeze solid at this time of year. Melvin you really need to get past these 1/2 day summer exercises. Its January now, go find a nice dumpster, get some garbage and try a 3 day sleep out. I'm sure "wifey" won't mind. Still nobody believes the escape fantasy.

Dorobuta

I was amazed at the hour needed to get wood to boil water over. Even in the rocky, arid parts of AZ, I can get enough fuel to boil water in 10 minutes or less.

I’ve never seen someone be so wrong with such authority.