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Old 11-23-2020, 07:02 AM   #1
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they are clueless what calories wild foods have

or how many calories per day are needed in order to maintain their bodyweight That's 2000 per day for a small woman and 3000 per day for a big man, if they mostly stay holed up in a sealed, well-insulated shelter and use their tarp made poncho/leggings and the 10x10 tarp, both stuffed with debris around them, bot inside of the shelter and when they go outside.

They've all been too dumb to even use a chunk of the 20x20 tarp and their sleeping bags to keep them protected as they stand around icefishing! Too dumb to drag some debris out to their fishing hole, sit on it and get their feet up on the debris, off of the ice! they didnt even know to have lots of fishing holes, covered with boughs and snow to slow down ice-formation, with tip up devices to set the hooks Sheesh

Do you know how MUCH plant material it takes to have a lb of it? about 3 gallon's worth. Know how many calories per lb that is? 600. So CAN you consume 3-5 lbs of that stuff, witout crapping yourself to death? :-)

Crabs and similar seafood offer 400-500 calories per lb of READY to eat flesh. Know what % of their live weight is edible flesh? 25%. So you need 20-25 lbs of live weight clams or crabs per day to maintain your body weight. YOu see the fools eating slugs, worms, insects and even leeches., but you'd need many lbs of such insects to feed you for a day and it would take you a day to accumulate that many of them. So it's a losing proposition. Use them as bait instead, on the 48 trotline hooks which you make out of 24 big hooks, by cutting them in half and re-forging their ends.

When you've caught a few small fish, use the pieces of fish as bait. so that you dont have to waste time and calories on hunting/catching insects. After the firrs few freezes, the insects will all have died and been consumed by skunks, etc. So they are not a viable source of bait for very long anyway.

The only reasonably sure source of enough food are the fish in the lake. By the time you can make enough netting to assure yourself of adequate calories per day, you'lll have at most a month left of ice-free rafting/netting. You arent likely catch more than 200 lbs of fish thru the ice, even with the most ambitious setup of trotlines and baited net traps. and 100 lbs in that 60 day period is a much more likely result

I dont agree that a 120 lb woman's losing more than 20 lbs, or a 180 lb man's losing more than 30 lbs is anything but cheating. People with more fat %, to include me, should not be allowed on the show. It is immoral to encourage obestity, for god's sake! With very rare exceptions, a 180 lb man is already carrying 15 lbs more fat than he should have. My wife is 5' 3" and 100 lbs. if she lost 20 lbs it would probably kill her. Nobody should win just by being fat. That's a crock of crap.

30 lbs of body weight is 90,000 calories which is a month of staying power. So the big man needs 200,000 calories to last 100 days. while losing 30 lbs. One lb of live weight fish is 350 calories. If you can catch 100 lbs of fish thru the ice, you still need to catch 500 lbs of fish before freeze up. To do so in a month means you average catcing 17 lbs of fish per day. that's quite feasible to do when you have 2000 sq ft of baited netting, slingbow and fishing arrows, 48 baited hooks and a pontoon outrigger raft.

You'll probably also catch 50k of calories in small game snares, treblehooks set for predators, netting traps set for birds, etc. So you will probably be ok if you only catch 13 lbs of fish per day for a month. That's not all that much, for having lots of hooks and netting. There's 20 lb fish in Great slave lake. If you arrow half a dozen such fish with your slingbow, as you walk along the shore, that's a big deal. that's not expecting so much, arrowing a big fish once a week.

None of the above requires the arrowing or trapping of big animals. However, the 200 day, 2 miillon $ challenge almost certainly will require such a catch, the loss of another 30-40 lbs of bodyweight or the catching of 1200 lbs of fish or some combination thereof. Since they wont let you take more than one animal of any big game species, a small musk ox will not be enough for 200 days. if you dont take 500 lbs of fish to go with it. You'll get another 100 days of icefishing, which should result in 200 more lbs of fish, which is 70,000 more calories, but that still leave you short by at least 200,000 calories, if you are to lose more weight. The 200 day thing really puts demands upon you to be a lot more than just fat and lucky. That's why I want such a challenge. and I want 2 million $ for having done it. There'd be a book or books in it, lots of videos, lots of classes of students, maybe even a movie.. Now you're talking somethig worth doing.
 
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:06 AM   #2
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The only reasonably sure source of enough food are the fish in the lake.
Melvin, just accept this one fact, NOTHING is guaranteed! Then start making your plans based on that assumption.
 
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Melvin, just accept this one fact, NOTHING is guaranteed! Then start making your plans based on that assumption.
I'm convinced that one thing is inevitable...for some sooner than others.
 
 
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I'm convinced that one thing is inevitable...for some sooner than others.
I would say that is a given!
 
Old 11-23-2020, 11:05 AM   #5
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every thing seems to require that things happen exactly as he thinks they will.

I would think that getting arrested and going to prison would be a big wake up that there are things outside your span of control that can mess you up greatly.

unless he planned on going to jail.
 
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The sad part of this is, that he has been arrested a couple of times in the last 25 years and lost everything he "prepared" each time.
 
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The sad part of this is, that he has been arrested a couple of times in the last 25 years and lost everything he "prepared" each time.
Isnít that impossible? Everything is going to go exactly the way he says it is. Therefore he must have wanted to be arrested.
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Old 11-23-2020, 01:17 PM   #8
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Isnít that impossible? Everything is going to go exactly the way he says it is. Therefore he must have wanted to be arrested.
 
Old 11-23-2020, 01:30 PM   #9
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Another of his million dollar schemes. Never happen.
 
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