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Old 09-28-2020, 09:44 PM   #1
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ways to make ice fishing much more effective

have occured to me, both with how to set the nets, which meshes to use where, how to bait the nets, how to best position the baited treblehook fisholes, how to have springpoles to set the hooks, how to drive fish into the nets, etc. So you're going to catch 3 lbs or more of fish per day, and live in an igloo out on the ice with debris and snow over the holes and net-slits, checking them every 3 hours, busting and removing the ice frags that form, checking your catch, rebaiting, and go back inside of the igloo. Use a fire on logs and dirt, at night, or the camera light, from the Alone show, to attract fish to the area. Use chunks of the reflectorized tarp to shine the light down into the holes and slits in the ice With tarp and tape bait-bags every 5m on the gillnets, and a dozen treblehooks baited, barbed and set with springpoles, you're going to catch a lot of fish, and since you're sheltered out there, it's no big deal to service the nets and hooks. What else would you be doing, eh/
 
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:47 PM   #2
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catch 50k+ calories thru the ice, and 150k before the ice forms, plus 50k of calories with your traps and treblehooks set for animals and you average 2500 calories per day for the 100 days to make the million$. Under the new prize format, if you're on the show, you are guaranteed 100k just by lasting 100 days. In reality, tho, ony 2-3 are ever going to make it that far, so you'll be clearing $100-$400 per hour while you're awake. so get busy making that netting! Fish offer about 350 calories per lb of live weight. So to have 200,000 calories you need 600 lbs of fish. If you only catch 150 lbs thru the ice, that means you need to catch 450 lbs before freeze up. You get 4-5 weeks of clear water, but it takes 2 weeks to make the pontoon outrigger raft, and all of the netting. Every few days, of course you set another net weir, but it's going to take a while to maximize your fish production. Theres other things you have to do, also. So you'll get about a month of full production, because you'll lose some days to storms, rough, water, etc. So you need ways to average catching over 15 lbs of fish per day. while you mostly do other things, like run your trap lines twice a day and preserve your catch, in a little log cabin, up on tree 'legs", etc. Later, of cours, you can make an ice igloo as a food cache, out on the ice, 10m from your living-igloo. Set some treblehooks and junglewhips around it, so that any would be thieves of your food become more food for you. You'll hear them and can arrow them.

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Old 09-29-2020, 07:16 AM   #3
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Melvin, if you had been paying attention to the multiple seasons of "Alone", you might have noticed that the participants have been allowed minimal kit, only 10 items to survive. Also many of the areas have limited wildlife both on land and under water. Try a reality check, the participants are limited to the area that they are allowed to cover. NOTHING is guaranteed MELVIN!
 
 
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Have you actually tried any of your ideas? You should and document them thoroughly - you’d probably make some money publishing them, assuming they actually work the way you think.
 
Old 10-10-2020, 06:56 AM   #5
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Melvin, if you had been paying attention to the multiple seasons of "Alone", you might have noticed that the participants have been allowed minimal kit, only 10 items to survive. Also many of the areas have limited wildlife both on land and under water. Try a reality check, the participants are limited to the area that they are allowed to cover. NOTHING is guaranteed MELVIN!
as usual, stupid, you think everyone is as dumb as you are. Not one thing I've suggested doesn't take the item list into consideration. I never said anything was guaranteed, stupid. The limited land allowed for you to forage in is why you need to learn the things I suggest, dumbass. Walking around with a bow is a waste of calories. Fish are by far the easiest flesh food to catch. Even the rabbit snaring is a waste of time and calories, unless you've first use the baited, suspended treblehooks to remove the predators from your area.

A rabbit offers only. 700 calories and you burn 100 calories per mile walked, on open, flat ground, at room temps, unburdened. In the cold, lugging around the 30 lbs of camera gear, on hills, fighting snow, boulders, etc, you probably burn 140 calories per mile. So if you walk 5 miles, in the running of your snarling, 2x a day, and catch just one rabbit, you lost calories, cause you still have to clean and cook the damned thing.

However, if you have to check the foot snares and vertical junglewhips set for big game, and look at the trelehooks set for predators, you might as well have snares set along the route, eh? :-) Set things out, AMAP, as the leaves of a 4-leaf clover, so that you end up back in camp every 1-2 hours.
 
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thought of a way to use netting across the open end of the "v" of netting set out near shore, under/thru the ice. Can't cut the net slits in the ice completely thru, of course, At the middle of the ve, and the corners, have to leave 3 ft of ice, at each place, with the "front row" nets attached to the side nets, under the ice. After the area's been baited with the fishing holes and the bait bags on the side-nets, gently go out onto the ice and pull the front nets across the open end of the "v" attaching them to the stakes and short pieces of netting there. Then any fish in the enclosed area are trapped. Start banging on the ice with the 5 ft long handle in the E-tool, and waving said tool around in the fishing holes. Scare the fish into the 3" mesh gill nets that form the sides of the trap and into the 1.5" mesh that forms the front end of the trap. You'll increase your catch this way. I"m still mulling over the feaiblility of using a chumline, with floats and tarp-tape bait bags, full of fishheads/guts, every 5m, under the ice. You'd have to have weights to hold down the floats, and the changing thickness of the ice, water surges and waves, etc, are likely to snag up your line, meaning that rebating it would be either a huge pita or impossible. An access hole every 20m, would probably help a lot.
 
Old 10-10-2020, 07:09 AM   #7
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Have you actually tried any of your ideas? You should and document them thoroughly - you’d probably make some money publishing them, assuming they actually work the way you think.
I've tried some of them. The raft idea works just fine, as do the junglewhips. and the nets. I've been copy pasting my posts and putting them into a file, to write a book with, some day. Thanks for the idea, tho. We don't get iced up lakes here. :-) I did a bit of ice fishing in CO and it sucks, if done the normal way. Many more calories burned than returned. You've got to have the baited gill nets to make it worth doing and you've got to live right there, so you can keep the net slits and fishing holes from being iced-over.
 
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When is that comic book coming out? What a joke it will be.
 
Old 10-10-2020, 01:11 PM   #9
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When is that comic book coming out? What a joke it will be.

**** you, punk. Y ou're the worst one here. You KNOW I can do what I say.and you lie about it. why dont you go pull your hair out?
 
Old 10-10-2020, 04:34 PM   #10
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Another "Gonna be rich" scheme, What happened to the flop house's you were going to buy? "Wifey" being a CRNA, You designing, building, and selling a double action, convict legal, black powder revolver? In the last 20 years what have you ACTUALLY done? Besides more time, of course.
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