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Old 04-18-2020, 04:42 PM   #1
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just did 4 miles in 95 minutes, 60 lb pack

in 3 weeks,or a bit less, it will be 8 miles in 3 hours. This, twice a week is all the time I'm willing to give it. Maybe by then the gym will have re-opened. I probably should stuff an old blanket in the bottom of the pack, so as to move the wheelweights up higher on my back. As things stand, they beat the crap out of my tailbone.
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:08 AM   #2
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Try using your real kit, that is if you have any! Picture prove reality and disprove fantasy.
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:59 AM   #3
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Lot better things to put in a pack than wheel weights. Like normal stuff that should be there. Just more nonsense as usual.
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Old 04-19-2020, 10:10 AM   #4
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Wheel weights? As was posted, real training requires real equipment. Any practice hiking should be with the food, water, and the actual load you'll be carrying unless your going to eat and drink wheel weights. This is "Let's pretend on a computer" anyway. No person who has followed your claims believes it for a second.
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Old 04-19-2020, 06:26 PM   #5
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Water jugs in a pack. If you have a load bearing best and/or a plate carrier (even one lacking plates) you can improvise filler-weight.
I'm mainly doing road and hill work on pavement (about a four to six mile course each morning depending on time available, what else I plan to do for PT). You are smart not to intially overdo it. Nothing sets back training like overtraining/ramping up too fast.
I know the state of my own injuries and scar tissue. Thankfully I have an uninjured spine, hips and knees (old fractures in my feet and Left hand are the things that I work around).
I'm guessing that you are staying on the dirt/grass vs the paved roads. That's good but you already know how easy it is to injure via misstep,so I know that you select your footgear/ankle support well.
And water. Lots of water. THAT can be your training load until you need to consume it
 
Old 04-20-2020, 05:08 AM   #6
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just did 4 miles in 95 minutes, 60 lb pack
in 3 weeks,or a bit less, it will be 8 miles in 3 hours. This, twice a week is all the time I'm willing to give it. Maybe by then the gym will have re-opened. I probably should stuff an old blanket in the bottom of the pack, so as to move the wheelweights up higher on my back. As things stand, they beat the crap out of my tailbone.
John, this is good to see. Finally acknowledging that a person CAN function with a pack heavier than 28-30 lbs, after years of insulting anyone who talked about doing so. Well done; it's good to see change & growth.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:14 AM   #7
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I cannot image how that load is being carried. But Kudos for doing it and trying to be smart about it.

You'd be better served, loading the pack with the gear and supplies you would actually carry. This does a few things for you:

1) makes sure everything fits
2) allows you to try different configurations of your gear to find the best packing scheme
3) lets you evaluate your choices.
4) teaches you how to secure your gear, see how quiet or noisy it is.
5) test your packing scheme for accessibility of stuff you need during the hikes.

Around here, people know when I'm getting ready to go on a hunt, because they see me walking around the neighborhood with my full pack, boots, and the clothing I will wear hiking in / out.

I pack differently based on the type of hunt, the area I will be hunting in, and the time of year.

even if you are doing it for end of the world scenarios, or whatever, it really is a good idea to know what works for you and what doesn't. I'm 100% positive my gear choices will be very different from the choices of others. Not because they are wrong, or because I am, but because we all focus on different things, have different ideas of bare necessities, and are in different environments.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:23 AM   #8
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in 3 weeks,or a bit less, it will be 8 miles in 3 hours. This, twice a week is all the time I'm willing to give it. Maybe by then the gym will have re-opened. I probably should stuff an old blanket in the bottom of the pack, so as to move the wheelweights up higher on my back. As things stand, they beat the crap out of my tailbone.
what pack and frame are you using?

if the belt is snug on your hips properly, nothing should be hitting your tailbone.

If you are using a pack without a hip belt, or a really thin / narrow one, then you need a better pack.

There are plenty of websites out there that cover properly fitting a pack.

Carrying too much weight in an improperly fitted pack can lead to injury.

even my daypack has a frame and a decent hip belt. The last thing you want is to be in the middle of nowhere and get a back (or any) injury.
 
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what pack and frame are you using?...
Again, only answering the question because I know JMD won't. Said he was using a medium Alice pack, with frame. But then said 'next time' he'd be using a 7-lb Marine MOLLE pack

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The gym I normally used is closed due to corona so I got a medium alice pack somebody gave me (the price was right) and put in about 25 lbs of lead wheel weights...
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added 2 miles and 10 lbs to the pack...

alice pack, even with frame aint waf. There zero padding on the hipbelt, just a bit on the frame where ib bounces on your tailbone and lower back. I can't believe that the military put up with it for 30+ years. No strap with which to lift it or to drag it as you crawl

Next time, I'll add 3 miles and another 10 lbs, but I'll have to use the big marine molle pack, which is 7 lbs all by itself...
 
Old 04-20-2020, 11:50 AM   #10
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Again, only answering the question because I know JMD won't. Said he was using a medium Alice pack, with frame. But then said 'next time' he'd be using a 7-lb Marine MOLLE pack
Neither of which would impact his tailbone. I own several Alice packs with frames, and there is no way, using the frame, that anything is impacting your tailbone, unless you don't know how to use the hip belt. (BTW, a lot of people will replace the Hip belt with one from another pack system. I've also seen where people use a different frame with the Alice pack to really good effect. I've never swapped them out, so I have no first hand experience with them.

I believe he is talking about the CFP-90 pack, which has a decent frame - though I could be mistaken as to which pack he is talking about.

based on the tailbone comment, I figured he must be using something different.
 
Old 04-20-2020, 12:12 PM   #11
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It'd be a hell of a lot easier to give advice if we had pics or at least a make and model of the pack.
Some reason details and proof of recent personal deeds are missing.

Here's a pic of an AR500 Silhouette plate I bought to set up a reduced .22lr course behind the house.

Today I'm setting up the backstop and splatter shields.
Probably Overkill as it's for Subsonic Rimfire type ammo 1000fps and less. Plus I'll be approximately 60yds distant
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Old 05-02-2020, 01:55 PM   #12
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I had a pillow in the bottom of the pack, the idea being that the weight was better for me up higher on my back. WRONG at least, it surely was when sticking out rearward of the pack, with the hip belt 4" too high off of my hips. I had to go up and down a steep ditch, 12 ft or so deep, and the damned pack made me slip. If my knee had hit anything but dirt, it probably would have ruined me for life. Now the weight is back down to 40 lbs, and I'll be trying for longer distances, with the pack properly adjusted to fit me, the pillow removed, pads where I've still got blood blisters from the last trip, pinching me between the pants belt and bottom of the hip belt. That really sucked. It's now quite hot from 10 am to 6 pm, so I'll have to get up early for the hikes.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 06:20 AM   #13
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Still sounds like it is either incorrectly fitted or you’re doing something wrong with how you are wearing it. Pictures would be helpful in getting the problem sorted out.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 08:52 AM   #14
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pictures please.
 
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