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Old 04-05-2020, 03:25 PM   #1
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The gym I normally used is closed due to corona

so I got a medium alice pack somebody gave me (the price was right) and put in about 25 lbs of lead wheel weights. Walked a couple of miles with it. in 40 minutes. Next time, add 10 lbs and 2 more miles, and so on. It'll take several months to work up to 20 miles of flat pavement in a day, with 50 lbs. working at it twice a week. That damned surgery stole a lot of my strength and endurance. I couldn't do much of anything for over a month afterward and i was thoroughly messed up for a month before the surgery, too.
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Old 04-05-2020, 09:06 PM   #2
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I find it equally effective as a workout, and of greater benefit, to load your pack with your actual gear. Then do hikes of varying distances and varying speeds.

This will get you in shape, provide cardio, and teach you to load your gear and properly secure it.

It will also make you look at your gear choices.

Without a frame, properly fitted, the Alice pack may not be your best choice, and you run the risk of actually doing more harm than good with your “workout”
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:17 AM   #3
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The area I tend to lack is cardio; or maybe more accurate to say aerobic rather than cardio. I do a lot and work a lot, but it's not high-metabolism stuff.
 
 
Old 04-06-2020, 08:34 AM   #4
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I got a cut out fairly rigid closed cell foam insert I cut for a CamelBak BMF pack ( old style own 4). The center of the foam is cut out for a cheap set of plastic weights. And can accommodate 30lbs of them at most.

I also picked up a 20lb padded weight bar to simulate a loaded rifle to add to the 15lb kettle bell I was using.

Train hard fight easy.
 
Old 04-06-2020, 10:29 AM   #5
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I find it equally effective as a workout, and of greater benefit, to load your pack with your actual gear. Then do hikes of varying distances and varying speeds.

This will get you in shape, provide cardio, and teach you to load your gear and properly secure it.

It will also make you look at your gear choices.

Without a frame, properly fitted, the Alice pack may not be your best choice, and you run the risk of actually doing more harm than good with your “workout”
I have used ALICE rucksack's with and without the frame. Without the frame it's alright (for me) up to 20 lbs. With the frame you can carry an amazing load, but you won't like it.
 
Old 04-06-2020, 12:22 PM   #6
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I have used ALICE rucksack's with and without the frame. Without the frame it's alright (for me) up to 20 lbs. With the frame you can carry an amazing load, but you won't like it.
he was talking some increasingly heavy loads, and what he is loading will just sit in the bottom of the pack.

without a good frame and hip belt, your shoulders are going to hurt, and it will be harder to keep things adjusted tight to the back and your CG could be all over the place.

The difference between an ok pack and a good pack that is fitted to you is night and day.
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:33 AM   #7
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I have used ALICE rucksack's with and without the frame. Without the frame it's alright (for me) up to 20 lbs. With the frame you can carry an amazing load, but you won't like it.

I think I still have two or three medium Alice packs and one large Alice with a frame stashed away in my garage. They are good packs, but there are far better choices today.

If you are going to do any serious backpacking or load hauling, a decent pack is worth twice what you pay for it.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:51 AM   #8
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The large ALICE pack with the frame was used fifty years ago, I'm sure there are much better designs now. I used a medium ALICE pack without a frame in a rim to rim hike in the Grand Canyon and it worked well, but I carried nothing like I would need for an extended hike. I also agree to stuff your pack with actual supplies and equipment. Dead weight will not "carry" the same as gear.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:00 AM   #9
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I was attending a wedding in Missoula Montana about 20 some odd years ago. I had a bit of time to kick around town and I discovered a mountaineer shop, that fitted me for a pack. I bought a Dana "Bombpack" and it has served me well over the years.
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Old 04-07-2020, 12:07 PM   #10
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The Dana packs were the precursors to the MysteryRanch packs. I'm pretty sure the "Dana" of Dana packs is one of the founders of MR.
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Old 04-09-2020, 03:40 PM   #11
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I just run a few (4-6) miles of hills around my apartment complex. Alternate days use the iron I have (kettlebell)and generally go monkey house on burpees, push ups, bridging drills etc. On occasion I improvise a pull up bar(now that they've taped off the swing sets next to the apartment)by means of a folded towel and a fixture near the door frame. I actually have one of those non-screw adjustable pull up bars on the way,and I keep a piece of Chicom/Slave Labor made cardio (a ghetto knock off on a Versaclimber)I got at a yard sale last summer and never got around to assembling until a couple of weeks ago. It works,so if I get chased indoors completely,it's good for some cardio.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 03:41 PM   #12
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Once in a while, when I run I use the company (side job) issue body armor for a little extra weight.
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