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Old 02-07-2020, 08:53 AM   #1
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Alone: The Beast

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From the creators of HISTORY's show Alone comes a series where 3 strangers attempt to endure 30 days in a remote location with no tools or modern amenities, just the clothes on their backs and an untouched fallen animal. Faced with punishing weather, relentless predators, and their differing survival styles, it'll take all their ingenuity and stamina to work together and survive in Alone: The Beast.

Well Melvin, a 7th Season has started. My wife and I watched the other night and could not believe how stupid it has gotten. 3 people each with a flare gun to tap out with, the clothes on their back and NOTHING else and a freshly killed moose. Object is to see if they can last 30 days. This show has gotten downright dangerous for the participants, a large black bear walked within 15-20 yards of the lone remaining participant and the person had nothing to defend herself with. Again, this is entertainment at its worst.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:23 AM   #2
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...3 people each with a flare gun to tap out with, the clothes on their back and NOTHING else and a freshly killed moose. Object is to see if they can last 30 days...
Do they say what kind of terrain/area ahead of time? It would be difficult in most locations, but in some areas would be near impossible.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 09:37 AM   #3
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Do they say what kind of terrain/area ahead of time? It would be difficult in most locations, but in some areas would be near impossible.
This was filmed in the Canadian Arctic, probably around the end of September, early October. Just before it starts to snow.
 
 
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"Arctic". Yuck.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:52 PM   #5
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Survival with minimal equipment is bad enough. Cold, too? Not if I can help it!
 
Old 02-08-2020, 08:20 AM   #6
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My wife and I watched Season 7 episode 2 last evening. 3 new men ready for 30 days with only a dead musk ox to feed themselves with. I must admit these 3 guys worked really well as a team, made it the 30 days and managed to also catch a squirrel and a very large trout. As a note, a large black bear raided their food cache within 12 hours and showed up in their camp within 50 yards of everyone at about the 18 hour point. I'm just assuming that this time they have at least 1 cameraman with them rather than use go pros as previous seasons, and he is armed. They identified the location as the Northwest Territories and if was late fall again.
 
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This show is just another femi-nazi attempt to make men look silly, by having them do all the hard parts and then leave, letting the woman pretend like she's something special.
 
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Do they say what kind of terrain/area ahead of time? It would be difficult in most locations, but in some areas would be near impossible.
it was not a moose, IIRC, it was a musk ox.
 
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it was not a moose, IIRC, it was a musk ox.
Pay attention Melvin, 1st episode was a moose, 2nd episode was a musk ox
 
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if there's workable stone within their area, they can all have hand-axes in an hour and spears in a couple more hours. The flare gun would run off a bear. without the stone, you'd have a horrible time getting thru the skin and at the meat. maybe you dould grind a chisel end of a green pole on a rock, fire harden it and start at the asshole, tearing the skin and levering it off with other poles, but it would be a tough sob.of a job. Just wooden fire hardened points on spears and clubs would be enough for 3 men to run off a black bear, No problem.
 
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start a fire easily enough with a flare gun. Dig a hole with a stick, fill it with dry debris, insert flare gun, with debris held around the gun. fire the flare. Fire will result. Still have two flares. once you access a big bone, you can split the bone, grind it on a rock and have a half assed sort of "knife". blade. once you get the hide off, you'd have a sort of sleeping cover to stretch over the 3 of you up on a pile of debris, more debris around and over you Get that meat into the ground before the ground freezes, someplace you can cover it with boulders. Or get it into bags made of the hide, tossed over a cord between two trees, cord made of dried, twisted intestines.

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if there's workable stone within their area, they can all have hand-axes in an hour and spears in a couple more hours. The flare gun would run off a bear. without the stone, you'd have a horrible time getting thru the skin and at the meat. maybe you dould grind a chisel end of a green pole on a rock, fire harden it and start at the asshole, tearing the skin and levering it off with other poles, but it would be a tough sob.of a job. Just wooden fire hardened points on spears and clubs would be enough for 3 men to run off a black bear, No problem.
Show me a hand axe and spear you made with a stone. I would l love to see you run off a Black Bear, too. Preferably a mean old grouchy male that's being bothered by Black Flies or Mosquitos. C'mon Melvin, just a hand axe you made from stone.
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there's nothing difficult about it. People run off bears just by screaming and waving their arms. I'm not a pussy, like you. A hand axe is very crude and simple. even a monkey like you should be able to make one. All you have to do is smash various rocks between other stones, until you find one that shows colloidal flaking.
 
Old 11-20-2020, 08:35 AM   #14
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there's nothing difficult about it. People run off bears just by screaming and waving their arms. I'm not a pussy, like you. A hand axe is very crude and simple. even a monkey like you should be able to make one. All you have to do is smash various rocks between other stones, until you find one that shows colloidal flaking.


If there is nothing hard about it, why haven't you done it?
 
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if there's workable stone within their area, they can all have hand-axes in an hour and spears in a couple more hours. The flare gun would run off a bear. without the stone, you'd have a horrible time getting thru the skin and at the meat. maybe you dould grind a chisel end of a green pole on a rock, fire harden it and start at the asshole, tearing the skin and levering it off with other poles, but it would be a tough sob.of a job. Just wooden fire hardened points on spears and clubs would be enough for 3 men to run off a black bear, No problem.
have you ever actually lapped stone in to blades? Have you ever made such things? Actually done not thought about, not read about, not watched a video about - have you?

have you ever skinned game?

Can you even answer these questions honestly?

when you get your yard, try it. even use modern tools to do it. you should film it from scratch, not after you've spent days trying to get it right.

but, you won't, because you can't. BTW, such a video would probably get you consideration to go on the show.
 
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if there's workable stone within their area, they can all have hand-axes in an hour and spears in a couple more hours. The flare gun would run off a bear. without the stone, you'd have a horrible time getting thru the skin and at the meat. maybe you dould grind a chisel end of a green pole on a rock, fire harden it and start at the asshole, tearing the skin and levering it off with other poles, but it would be a tough sob.of a job. Just wooden fire hardened points on spears and clubs would be enough for 3 men to run off a black bear, No problem.
worst advice possible. You're using primitive tools. I wouldn't start there using good sharp knives. too easy to puncture the intestines and ruin meat.

start at the sternum - no meat to lose there. even if you're working the skin with a sharp rock. once you get through the skin. lift up and away from the carcass, cut, saw, rip, from the inside outwards. Any slips or accidental cutting doesn't do any harm.

when you expose the organs, start from the lungs and separate the connective tissue, pulling everything out and away, working down towards the intestines .

depending on how it was killed, try to save heart and liver - great food value in each. Same with tongue.

take care not to puncture the bladder. also if possible tie off the intestines with a bit of hide or something

then, and only then you can cut away at the anus. if possible haul away the gut pile. This will be the number draw of predators and scavengers.

now it is simply a matter of separating the muscle tissue at the boundaries. It's pretty clear where the connective tissues are located.

anyone who has hunted would have little problem identifying where to do this in the meat.
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:33 AM   #17
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there's nothing difficult about it. People run off bears just by screaming and waving their arms. I'm not a pussy, like you. A hand axe is very crude and simple. even a monkey like you should be able to make one. All you have to do is smash various rocks between other stones, until you find one that shows colloidal flaking.
How many Bears have you run off? None. Most will run away but there is that one that thinks your just loud food. I'm eagerly waiting to see the hand axe!
 
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