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Old 11-23-2019, 07:22 AM   #1
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New pack, with load out



Top Left: Mystery Ranch Beartooth 80 pack. Trekking poles, cook set (with spare fuel can and extra lighter), water filter, another water filter in ziplock with some misc survival items. head lamps and flashlight. Spare batteries in plastic case. Three first aid kits. Two trauma kits with clotting agents, one basic kit for blisters, burns, etc. repair kit, compass, GPS, and a couple of collapsible water bottles. (one for dirty water, two for clean water)

Sleeping bag in background.

In front of the cooking gear, hammock, camelback bag. Primaloft jacket with compression sack.

Kill kit with compression sack. Utility knife and shears, - not part of kill kit.

rain gear with compression sack. spare underwear and socks with waterproof bag, spare hunting clothes.

not included in the picture, items I will wear or have on my person (boots, hats, gloves, etc), toiletries - scent control items and soap. And of course, food. Realized I left out my camp shoes (slippers)

Also not pictured: Tarp for hammock, or tent - haven't decided which I am going to do, under quilt, if I go hammock, or sleeping pad if I go tent.

Most everything goes in a compression sack or waterproof container. Sacks can be used as pillows, or even meat haulers, if the kill kit isn't big enough.

pretty much a two week load out. all goes in the pack and on my back

Big case in back is my bow, with comes out of the case and attaches to the backpack for the hike in.

thought I'd share - questions and comments welcome.
 
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:41 AM   #2
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here is what it looks like after most everything is in their compression sacks:



still a couple things to get in their sacks, but you see how well it all compresses down.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:06 AM   #3
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Fully loaded, without sleeping bag attached to bottom:



Still plenty of room for the freeze dried food and a few misc items like spare release for my bow.
 
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:07 AM   #4
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Pack can also accommodate a rifle, place riffle butt in side pocket, secure with compression straps.

I really like this pack, I haven't come close to filling it to capacity yet.

fully loaded with food and water, looking at 30lbs. I had calculated it out to be about 28 lbs for two weeks.

not bad. hike in, set up camp, compress the pack down to a slightly large day pack and I'm good to go hunt. This is my elk camp set up.

Deer Camp is a truck camp, so that's a whole different ball of wax with a lot more creature comforts...

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Old 11-23-2019, 08:34 AM   #5
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I don't know if anyone picked up on the socks and underwear in a waterproof bag. This is one of those lessons once learned, you never forget.
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Old 11-23-2019, 11:53 AM   #6
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More on this pack - it is a 5187 CU In pack (or 80 Liters)
Lots and lots of neat features - do a youtube search for some of the videos.

my main reason for this pack is the over load shelf feature. a few clips and you can separate the pack from the frame, revealing a shelf you can put a kill on. then reconnect the fasteners, adjust the straps and you can carry out a heavy elk load. Lots of videos showing this feature.

Plus it has a lifetime warranty.
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Old 11-23-2019, 01:57 PM   #7
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Canadian 82 Pattern Web Gear (left to right)

1) Pistol Mag Pouch (2 mags)

2) Rifle Mag Pouch (2 mags)

3) Gas Mask Carrier (contains) C4 mask
(side pouch) 2x decontamination mitts CW
2 pkg Detector Chemical Agent
2 pkg Paper Chemical Agent Detector
5.56mm Cleaning rod and brush
shaving brush
36x 6" pipe cleaners
small pair of needle nose pliers

4) 1 Quart canteen w/ cover & cup (cup for boiling water)

5) Buttpack (24 hours)
- 1 pr wool socks in zip lock bag
- 120 ml bottle of SPF 30 sun block
- 50 mg Bottle of foot powder
-1/2 roll of charmin in zip lock bag
-1 survival fishing kit
-1 wire saw
-2 rolls snare wire
-1 Hexamine solid fuel cooker
-1 toothbrush
-3 oz hair shampoo
-1 spare rubber air mattress plug
-1 comb
-50 yds dental floss
-1 chap stick
-12 electoplast band aids
-1 olive drab hand towel
-2 arctic candles
-1 range card w/ sentry orders on back
-1 small bar of soap
-1 cntr Tylenol caplets
-12 aspirin
-1x50 ml bottle bug juice w/ deet
-10' paracord
-2x patches for rubber air mattress
-1 Sewing kit
-1 Tube camouflage face paint
-1 pair ear plugs
-1 box waterproof matches
-1 P-38 can opener
- 10 Imodium Tablets
-1 serving Mountain House Lasagne
-1 Plastic food container 8"x5"x2"
- 1x46gm bag of plain rice
- 2x 45 gm bag instant potatoes
-2x 50 gm Blueberry apple cereal
-4x 4 gm pkg coffee mate
-2x 28 gm pkg Hot Chocolate
-3x pkg pepper
-4x pkg salt
-1 small plastic spoon
-1x book matches
-1x 6 gm pkg lifesavers
-4 pkg Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-8 Butterscotch Hard Candies

6) Carrier Pouch: Gortex Rain Jacket

7) Pouch containing KFS & pocket knife (18" para cord attaches knife to webbing)

8) 1 Qt canteen, carrier & cup(cup for washing)

9) Mag pouch x2 Rifle

10) Compass w/ silva compass

11) Harness- 2x Field Bandages
- 2x Carabineers
-1x Plastic Charger for 5.56mm Stripper Clips


Patrol Pack (Woods Brand, 1,900 cu in) (3-4 days)

1) Ranger Blanket

2) Combat sweater

3) Fleece Jacket

4) Field Message Pad w/ protractor
- 2 Range Cards
- Aide Memoire Battlefield First Aid
- 2 Pens
- pencil
- 2 highlighters

5) Neoprene/Nylon/Fleece gloves

6)6x single meal packs in quart sized zip lock freezer bags, each contains
-1x50 g bag Instant flavoured oatmeal
-1x45g bag Instant Mashed Potatoes
-2x4g envelopes Coffee mate
-3x envelopes salt
-3x envelopes pepper
-2x envelopes Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-4x envelopes tea
-1x envelope fruit beverage powder
-1x43g tube of honey or 1x34 g tube of peanut butter
-1x pack flavoured gum
-1x pack 10 hard candies (Werthers Butterscotch)
-1x envelope Hot Chocolate
-1x Package Cup a Soup
-1x Book of Matches

7) 8x35 binoculars

8) 4 local topo maps, 1 provincial grid map, 1 provincial highway maps

9) Rifle Cleaning kit

10) 50' Para Cord

11) 1 roll charmin in zip lock bag

12) Odds & Ends Bag- 3x Tube Cam Cream Black
(ziplock bag) Brown
Green
- NVG Green Finger light
- Sewing Kit
- Bug Juice
- Water Purification Tablets
-Waterproof Matches
-Kleenex
- Book: Platoon Commanders Aide Memoire
- P-38 Can opener
- 2 packages Fuel Tabs

Rucksack (Dana Classic Bombpack, 3,200 cu in) (10+ days)

1) Sleeping Bag
(complete includes inner, outer, flannelette liner, air mattress, sheet utility, bivy bag)
2) toque
3) shirt
4) trousers (lightweight)
5) sweater
6) Leather combat gloves with liner
7) undershirts x2
8) underwearx2
9) socks greyx2pr
10) spare boot laces
11) boot silicone (DOUBLE zip locked bagged)
12) Forest green Aladdin coffee cup w/ lid
13) 1/2 Roll of Charmin (zip lock bag)
14) olive drab fleece jacket
15) Rain suit pants
16) 8x single meal packs in quart sized zip lock freezer bags, each contains
-1x50 g bag Instant flavoured oatmeal
-1x45g bag Instant Mashed Potatoes
-2x4g envelopes Coffee mate
-3x envelopes salt
-3x envelopes pepper
-2x envelopes Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-2x envelopes tea
-1x envelope fruit beverage powder
-1x43g tube of honey or 1x34 g tube of peanut butter
-1x pack flavoured gum
-1x pack 10 hard candies (Werthers Butterscotch)
-1x envelope Hot Chocolate
-1x Book of Matches
17) 2x 1 Quart canteen w/ cover and cup
18) Gerber Mk II Survival Knife
19) Small First Aid kit
- 2x Small Bars of Soap
- Triangular Bandage
- First Aid Tape
- Polysporin
- 12 Electoplast Band-Aids
- 2x Lip Balm
- Dental Floss
- 6 Pr Latex Gloves
- 5 Ammonia Inhalants
- 1 Army Field Bandage

Note: This is only a 3 season kit;

- I have rifle magazine pouches for double mags in 5.56mm NATO (currently on webbing), & 2 double en bloc clip pouches for the M1 Garand changing them to suit the appropriate rifle is less than 10 minutes work;
-additional "en block" clips (5) would be carried in British
5.56mm bandoleers, nylon with a closable snap;
- For the AR 15A2, a Blackhawk 3 mag thigh pouch is available
- Holster used is the US M7 holster in which I carried a handgun on duty while in the Military while overseas and in the field.
- On my pants belt is located my Gerber Multi Tool and Mini Mag w/ assorted filters.
- Weight: webbing - 20 lbs
Ruck - 34 lbs
Patrol Pack- 18 lbs
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Old 11-23-2019, 02:16 PM   #8
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This can be considered "old school", but then a lot of this kit worked "back in the day". While the food listed is minimal to daily requirement this will do in an emergency, if time, transport is available additional items will be taken from the pantry.
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Old 11-24-2019, 04:50 AM   #9
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My setup as pictured is for elk hunting, changes based on the situation. I just thought I’d share how I load it up. I didn’t list the food portion, as I was still picking my menu. Then I add some dry snacks like jerky and trail mix, and I’m good to go.

I thought I’d show what I do, vs garbage bags, peanut butter, etc.

Living out of your gear tells you what works and what doesn’t. Hiking with your gear any distance gets you to evaluate your choices.

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Old 11-24-2019, 08:17 AM   #10
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Virtually no one believes in the lone wolf fantasy. I believe in the 6 Option plan. You start prepping at Option 6 and work your way to Option 1.

Option 1: Depart ahead of time to a prepared location;
Option 2: If required, stay in place, with stored kit;
Option 3: Departure of area with some sort of vehicle, with a variety of kit
Option 4: Departure of area with 3,200 cu in ruck, rifle, webbing
(prepared for 10+ days)
Option 5: Departure of area with 1,900 cu in patrol pack, rifle, webbing
(prepared for 3-4 days)
Option 6: Departure of area with rifle, webbing
(prepared for 1-2 days)
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:57 AM   #11
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You mean most people don't grab some garbage bags a roll of paper towels an an few handsful of leaves!
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Old 11-24-2019, 02:22 PM   #12
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This reminds me, I need to re-learn using Ranger beads for distance measurements. I’m too dependent on my GPS.
 
Old 11-25-2019, 05:32 AM   #13
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You mean most people don't grab some garbage bags a roll of paper towels an an few handsful of leaves!

ROFLMAO!!!!!
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Old 11-25-2019, 05:38 AM   #14
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I didnít list the food portion, as I was still picking my menu. Then I add some dry snacks like jerky and trail mix, and Iím good to go.
Just some advice, from personal experience, I have discovered that jerky and nuts that contain oils have a tendency to be inedible after they have sat in your ruck for a couple of years. Which is why I tried to do a lot of dehydrated foods.
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Old 11-25-2019, 05:43 AM   #15
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Just some advice, from personal experience, I have discovered that jerky and nuts that contain oils have a tendency to be inedible after they have sat in your ruck for a couple of years. Which is why I tried to do a lot of dehydrated foods.
Trail mix and very are simply food snacks for the hunt, they don't stay in the bag, and hopefully go beyond the first couple of days in the field.

I have containers of freeze dried foods that are strictly for emergency use. I buy stuff specifically for hunting trips. (Which is what this load out was specifically for)
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If you decide on a hammock, these are great:
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/

built in mosquito net, area for underquilt, or put it on the ground as a 1-person tent.

If you ground camp, these are the best pads (non-inflatable):
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/produ...ping-mat/17334
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Old 01-28-2020, 05:38 AM   #17
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If you decide on a hammock, these are great:
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/

built in mosquito net, area for underquilt, or put it on the ground as a 1-person tent.

If you ground camp, these are the best pads (non-inflatable):
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/produ...ping-mat/17334
I like the kammock stuff a lot, and they've added some really nice ultra light stuff to their lineup. I'm looking at picking up one of their fire quilts.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 06:30 AM   #18
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You mean most people don't grab some garbage bags a roll of paper towels an an few handsful of leaves!
ROFLMAO!
 
Old 01-28-2020, 06:33 AM   #19
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I can see the use of a hammock for the short term, but I wonder if it would cause back problems in the long run?
 
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I can see the use of a hammock for the short term, but I wonder if it would cause back problems in the long run?

A lot of people don't realize you don't sleep aligned on the axis, but at a diagonal, which is quite comfortable and easy on your back. You're not sleeping shaped like a banana.
 
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