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Old 01-30-2020, 11:24 AM   #21
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Trail mix and very are simply food snacks for the hunt, they don't stay in the bag, and hopefully go beyond the first couple of days in the field.

I have containers of freeze dried foods that are strictly for emergency use. I buy stuff specifically for hunting trips. (Which is what this load out was specifically for)
My ruck has been packed for years at a time, that is why I choose dehydrated items. This way at a critical moment I can grab it and go rather than grab it and try and stuff a few extra items in.
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:02 PM   #22
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My ruck has been packed for years at a time, that is why I choose dehydrated items. This way at a critical moment I can grab it and go rather than grab it and try and stuff a few extra items in.
I have another bag that I will be packing as a go bag, but if I have time, then this pack will be used. I can always throw the "go bag" on the load shelf of this bag if necessary.

But I use my backpacks regularly for hunting and hiking.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 02:58 PM   #23
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I just found it easier to buy additional packs for hiking and daily use.
 
 
Old 01-30-2020, 04:04 PM   #24
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That's why my previous pack will become the BOB...
 
Old 01-30-2020, 05:47 PM   #25
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I try to use the same bag. I figure if I'm going to train for a long-term bug-out/INCH, then I need to use the gear. That means a 4-season setup, even in summer. I keep a checklist of what I use and what I don't. Consumables get replaced immediately when I get home, if I spend long enough in varied enough conditions, and don't use something (with the exception of First Aid), I ditch it.

It's uncomfortable, but it keeps me from glamorizing a bug out, keeps me in shape, and I don't think a long-term bug-out/INCH should be anything less than 4-season.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:02 AM   #26
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It is nice to see a multitude of ideas here. We all have different circumstances and we are all prepared (except for the garbage bag & leaves guy) , in line with our own future expectations.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:06 AM   #27
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I'm a hope for the best, prepare for the worst kind of person.

But I'm skeptical we will see a true long-term SHTF situation. I think things could go sideways for a much as a couple months, but we'd get it back together afterwards.

We aren't going to lose the recipe for electricity, or how to purify water, or how to grow food.

Politics and people can screw things up, but I don't think people will put up with it for very long.

I think ammo and other preps are going to be the difference of surviving that month or two...
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:41 AM   #28
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Economic collapse would take time, but the reality that there are unstable regimes that sponsor terrorism around the world exists. One EMP could put you back in 1840, and a large proportion of the current "me generation" are not good working with their hands, outside of their cell phones.
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Depends on what happens. Another Greenland meteor or Yellowstone lights off, and we're back under 3 miles of ice.,
 
Old 02-04-2020, 10:25 AM   #30
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Back to hammocks, back in my younger days, during my training as a young infanteer, I had the experience of having my hide "bumped" at "0 Dark 30". So I have had some experience in the past jumping out of a sleeping bag on the ground and going immediately into a defensive posture. How easy would it be if the scenario occurred while you are in a hammock, would you have the same balance while you are trying to get in a defensive posture?
 
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Back to hammocks, back in my younger days, during my training as a young infanteer, I had the experience of having my hide "bumped" at "0 Dark 30". So I have had some experience in the past jumping out of a sleeping bag on the ground and going immediately into a defensive posture. How easy would it be if the scenario occurred while you are in a hammock, would you have the same balance while you are trying to get in a defensive posture?
Hard to explain, but you basically swing your legs and do a sitting up motion and you will land on your feet standing up. Remember, you're not that high off the ground.
 
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I can envision of a scenario where you have to fight your way out of a sleeping bag (think US Marines in the Chosen Reservoir). I think it would be easier to maintain your balance and control over your body and you would be closer to your defensive firearm if you were on the ground. Plus the ground offers more protection, than does being 3-4 feet in the air.
 
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...and you would be closer to your defensive firearm if you were on the ground...
We kept our M16's (empty) in our bag with us, primarily to keep crud out of it; but that was nearly 40 years ago. No idea how they do things now.
 
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I can envision of a scenario where you have to fight your way out of a sleeping bag (think US Marines in the Chosen Reservoir). I think it would be easier to maintain your balance and control over your body and you would be closer to your defensive firearm if you were on the ground. Plus the ground offers more protection, than does being 3-4 feet in the air.
Typically, the lowest point of the hammock is about chair height for me. so maybe 2-3 feet.

but i'm not in a combat scenario when hunting...

for Shtf, then yes, probably on the ground with a pad and a low cover. But it would be totally dependent on the exact situation.
 
Old 02-04-2020, 02:27 PM   #35
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We kept our M16's (empty) in our bag with us, primarily to keep crud out of it; but that was nearly 40 years ago. No idea how they do things now.
When we worked in sub zero weather conditions, our rifles are always outside the tent, the reason for this is when we were in Alaska we noticed the Americans we worked with brought their rifles into the tent from the cold, condensation formed on the rifles and when they went out side the guns froze solid. We left our rifles outside from the beginning and when we used FN's they functioned flawlessly, as did the guns of the enemy force of Eskimo Rangers who at the time used M1 Garands. The M16's were not designed for arctic operations. Working in a semi arid environment allowed us to sleep with our weapons next to us, loaded. The advantage with being a civilian and being more flexible it would be very easy to sleep with a small revolver in your sleeping bag. Properly positioned it would be available immediately.
 
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