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Old 12-20-2020, 09:19 AM   #1
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M1 Garand: America’s Original Battle Rifle

Is there any place in North America where the "regressive" left has banned these rifles? Has any politician even talked about it?

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Old 12-28-2020, 08:39 AM   #2
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I don’t know, though the recent rumblings indicate that all semi autos may come under either a ban, or become NFA items requiring a tax stamp and registration...
 
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I've heard that some states limit Hunting rifles to five round magazines, but the five round clips available would qualify the Garand. Never heard of the rifle itself being banned anywhere. I know I could make a healthy profit if I sold mine now which I'm not going to do.
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I've never heard them specifically included in any ban talk, other than those who talk about all semiautos as a group, and have to confess I've never even used a Garand. The reason is similar to the reasons I'm not huge on defensive shotguns; they're very effective, but by modern standards not real efficient. Not meant as an insult, either. A Garand is extremely capable, but with the limited capacity and high power level (much like the shotgun), they're just not what I personally want. My assumptions and perspective may also be tainted by my dad's WW2 stories, for that matter. He was a ranger in italy and when the opportunity presented itself during a deluge he 'lost' his Garand in a river to get hold of an M1 carbine, and said he was much happier with that. His fighting was mostly urban & village; not open range stuff, so the increased range of the Garand didn't matter to him. He said that both guns went "clean through them bastards", and so didn't see any disadvantage in the smaller carbine.

If stuck with having to pick a fixed-magazine semiauto from existing options, I'd actually be tempted by the SKS before the Garand. I prefer a more 'medium' power level most of the time and a 30-06 is more than I want even for hunting in our particular area. The day may come when those types are our only legal options, but I hope not.
 
Old 12-28-2020, 01:35 PM   #5
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I was gifted a Garand. I really like it, I may re-barrel it. I would not feel out gunned if I had to rely on it, nor would I feel out gunned for most situations.

As always, the rifleman is more important than the rifle...
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...As always, the rifleman is more important than the rifle...
Definitely. Right up there with "it's a poor carpenter who blames his hammer".
 
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John in AR, living on the edge of a bald a$$ prairie where you can spend 3 days watching you dog trying to find a tree to piss on, leaves me with the requirement for that long distance feeling. I bought the .30 Carbine as a games gun as I have been left with the impression by reading SLA Marshall's and Mark G Goodwin's books on US infantry Weaponry that the M1 Carbine is great to about 125-150 yds and leaves a lot to be desired in heavy winter conditions. On of the gripes that I have read much about is the poor quality of the US GI magazines. I was lucky with 7 of my 8 mags to get KCI mags that are made in Korea. Excellent mags.
 
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John in AR, living on the edge of a bald a$$ prairie where you can spend 3 days watching you dog trying to find a tree to piss on, leaves me with the requirement for that long distance feeling.
Agree completely; if I were in an area with long-range shooting being a possibility or with extra-large carnivores around, I'd want something more as well. Our deer here are small and I've never taken one at more than 80 yards, maybe 70. I used to have a BAR in .300 Win Mag but sold it in 1994 or 95, just because there's nothing up here I'd use it for and its favorite ammo was $2 per round even then.

I know the 30-rd M1 carbine mags had a bad reputation, but never tried them afaik. Mine are all old GI 15's except for a couple Kahr/AA brand 15's. I put new springs in most of the old GI ones 5-6 years ago, and so far they've all been good. That said, I don't use it much, so can't really say too much about them for heavy use.

Everyone's situation is different and requires different solutions. Unless we pick a 10.5" 1960's-era gun in .223 caliber; then supposedly all our problems are solved...
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