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Old 11-11-2020, 04:10 AM   #1
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Suitable long range Scope for hunting

Several parts help us to take down all the targets with ease. But, most significantly, scopes seem to be the ideal candidate. One of my friend suggested the Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24x50 is the best. It is affordable, and the presence of the well-known Vortex warranty is a perk. The warranty comes for a lifetime and is also transferable. Other than this, the Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50 gives you a clear vision than the strike eagle. But how far it will work effectively like 700> yards that is the question!

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Old 11-11-2020, 08:10 AM   #2
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Realistically, I don't see 5.56mm as a 900 yard cartridge, I would look at some other calibers that the AR platform comes in.
 
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Sounds like Mel with another name maybe?
 
 
Old 11-11-2020, 09:29 AM   #4
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Sounds like Mel with another name maybe?
Nah, don't think so. However does sound like someone asking side ways info about sniping people.

The spelling and grammar are different. As maybe as in English as a second language?

Or a translation program?

Pork Mohammed if I know!?

So sorry not giving out any more information.

I think he ought to follow Melvin's firearms advice particularly about reloading.

I might be wrong but this is starting to send up all sorts of red flags.

My other thought is a kid maybe?

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Old 11-11-2020, 12:58 PM   #5
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I like the LPVO scopes for ARs: 1-6, 1-8, 1-10
Vortex, Leupold, Primary Arms - lots of choices out there.

I have each of these on AR type weapons, also some 1x red dots and a 3x prism sight on a Sig 556
 
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nothing short of a .50 bmg softpoint will humanely take big game at 900 yds and y ou wont be hitting any groundhogs at that distance. When the velocity drops below 1800 fps, big game softpoints wont expand any more in flesh. varmint hollowpoints wont expand below 1600 fps. and virtually nothing has that much velocity remaining at 900 yds. You'll need a $2000 scope to reliably be able to put on that sort of elevation cranking. You'lll need wind meteres every 100m, and a computer to deal with all of the data points. No matter what scope you put on the rifle, it's inhumane for hunting and impractial. Not one man in 100 has a place to practice such shooting. So it's all a crock of crap.
 
Old 11-12-2020, 07:46 AM   #7
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nothing short of a .50 bmg softpoint will humanely take big game at 900 yds and y ou wont be hitting any groundhogs at that distance. When the velocity drops below 1800 fps, big game softpoints wont expand any more in flesh. varmint hollowpoints wont expand below 1600 fps. and virtually nothing has that much velocity remaining at 900 yds. You'll need a $2000 scope to reliably be able to put on that sort of elevation cranking. You'lll need wind meteres every 100m, and a computer to deal with all of the data points. No matter what scope you put on the rifle, it's inhumane for hunting and impractial. Not one man in 100 has a place to practice such shooting. So it's all a crock of crap.


Melvin, you have obviously no idea how many long range shooting clubs there are on the prairies in North America, some even shoot black powder past 1,000 yds.
 
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nothing short of a .50 bmg softpoint will humanely take big game at 900 yds...

...You'lll need wind meteres every 100m, and a computer to deal with all of the data points.
John, if you're going to post such ignorant crap, you should at least post less easily-proven-wrong ignorant crap. Elk, so definitely "big game", at 975 yards, under field conditions using his backpack for a rest, dropping the elk like a sack of wet concrete. Nowhere near 50BMG power needed.

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nothing short of a .50 bmg softpoint will humanely take big game at 900 yds and y ou wont be hitting any groundhogs at that distance. When the velocity drops below 1800 fps, big game softpoints wont expand any more in flesh. varmint hollowpoints wont expand below 1600 fps. and virtually nothing has that much velocity remaining at 900 yds. You'll need a $2000 scope to reliably be able to put on that sort of elevation cranking. You'lll need wind meteres every 100m, and a computer to deal with all of the data points. No matter what scope you put on the rifle, it's inhumane for hunting and impractial. Not one man in 100 has a place to practice such shooting. So it's all a crock of crap.
Total and complete bull. Elk are routinely taken at 1k plus yards. You have zero knowledge or experience with modern optics or rifles.

Come out to AZ some time. We can go to cow town. They have targets well beyond 1000 yds. You’d be shocked to see what people do with regularity.

You really should stay in the slow lane.
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Old 11-12-2020, 03:53 PM   #10
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Never heard of 20 MOA bases?
Don’t know much about scopes or even simple phone apps.
There are systems that tie the range finder, scope, and cell phone together.

And there are shooters that know how to use their scopes and how to adjust them for long range shooting.

Of course you need to not have a flinching problem, and shoot a decent caliber.

You have brought up you tube, go watch the 1k yard plus shots on elk out there, and then let the grown ups talk.
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Old 11-13-2020, 09:11 AM   #11
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here's a small sample of what's out there on Youtube on this subject of long range shooting, looks like there's quite a few people that don't flinch and that know how to use a scope.

 
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nothing short of a .50 bmg softpoint will humanely take big game at 900 yds and y ou wont be hitting any groundhogs at that distance. When the velocity drops below 1800 fps, big game softpoints wont expand any more in flesh. varmint hollowpoints wont expand below 1600 fps. and virtually nothing has that much velocity remaining at 900 yds. You'll need a $2000 scope to reliably be able to put on that sort of elevation cranking. You'lll need wind meteres every 100m, and a computer to deal with all of the data points. No matter what scope you put on the rifle, it's inhumane for hunting and impractial. Not one man in 100 has a place to practice such shooting. So it's all a crock of crap.


what you mean, is you can't. There's even a 12 year old that can do it. How does it feel to be bested by a mere child?

There's a range here in Phoenix that hundreds of people shoot at that goes beyond 1K yards. Then there's the desert itself. Probably a million people have access to such distances to shoot at, that you claim doesn't exist.

I know of three other ranges that have steel out beyond 600 yards.

you need to avoid subjects you know nothing about.
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:38 PM   #13
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what you mean, is you can't. There's even a 12 year old that can do it. How does it feel to be bested by a mere child?

There's a range here in Phoenix that hundreds of people shoot at that goes beyond 1K yards. Then there's the desert itself. Probably a million people have access to such distances to shoot at, that you claim doesn't exist.

I know of three other ranges that have steel out beyond 600 yards.

you need to avoid subjects you know nothing about.
I shot at long range at Ben Avery every winter from 2012 to 2016 during Winter Range. Their 1,000 yd range is absolutely magnificent!
 
Old 11-13-2020, 02:37 PM   #14
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I shot at long range at Ben Avery every winter from 2012 to 2016 during Winter Range. Their 1,000 yd range is absolutely magnificent!
Ben Avery is a great range, but according to the expert, nobody has access to it....

Then there's Cow town, another range with targets well beyond 1K yards. Again that the expert says nobody has access to...
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Old 11-13-2020, 04:11 PM   #15
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And there's one about 45mins east of me in Madison County Arkansas.
Private matches or appointment only and NRA or GOA membership required.
 
Old 11-13-2020, 04:28 PM   #16
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The 4 years that we shot Winter Range we also shot Cow Town, the problem with Cow Town, is the fact it keeps floating away once there is a heavy rain!
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Old 11-17-2020, 07:12 AM   #17
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I see Boati has run away from this thread...too bad, I wanted to see how he dealt with his comments about wind meters, one in a hundred men, etc. since he obviously is wrong.

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Old 11-17-2020, 12:43 PM   #18
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Melvin usually limit's his fantasy shooting to 100 yards. Anything over that is almost impossible. He must have shot at targets at 300 Meters with an M-16 when he was in basic training so I can never understand why he thinks 300 yards plus with .30 caliber and above is impossible.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:46 PM   #19
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Well depending on how it goes, I may shoot a few at the 500 yd line, just for grins. 400 yds is my ethical limit, simply because I say so. I don’t practice any farther on a regular basis, and I don’t hunt elk with a rifle..
 
Old 11-19-2020, 09:15 PM   #20
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Didn’t get to go to the 500 line, had to settle for 300 yds.

I’m zeroed for 300, so it was ok. Got the Vortex 1-6 dialed in nicely. I like the LPVO for the versatility. Vortex is a good buy, probably one of the better values out there.
 
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