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Old 08-11-2020, 12:03 PM   #1
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Cowboy Guns vs Black Bear

Man Stops 250-Pound Black Bear With Uberti Yellowboy in 45 Long Colt

https://www.tactical-life.com/firear...1AgfhvuXfLlUT8


Nice to see I'm kitted out!
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:14 PM   #2
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Dozens of encounters with Black Bears in Ontario, but never had to fire a shot. I still would prefer an eight round .30/06 or 7 Shot 12 Gauge, but I do like that Yellowboy in .45 Colt. Darn you Garand, I was just thinking there wasn't one more gun I wanted.
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:50 PM   #3
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Funny how obsolete guns aren’t.
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Old 08-12-2020, 05:56 AM   #4
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IMO, as long as it has decent power - which a .45LC rifle certainly can - most guns are capable of more than we tend to think. My dad took a lot of deer with a .25-20 carbine, and it was only about as powerful as a well-loaded 9mm pistol is with modern ammunition.

I was surprised at the results when I chronographed some loads thru my .45LC levergun (a 20"; don't know what the Henry Yellowboy is). Even though the Barnes 200-grain SCHP is a standard-pressure load (not +P or "Ruger/TC only"), it runs a little over 1300fps, or 750 ft/lbs. And with some Corbon "+P" stuff it'll put out well over a thousand ft/lbs, which is adequate for most things in North America imo.

Good on him for thinking to actually load his gun before he actually needed it. Could have turned out very differently if he hand't.
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Old 08-12-2020, 06:51 AM   #5
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I have 2 Uberti M73's in .45 Colt, nice to see that they can still hold their own if required. Well off in a couple of hours to a 4 day match, see everyone next Monday as there is no internet where we are heading.
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Old 08-12-2020, 08:31 AM   #6
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I have a Smith &Wesson 25-5 in .45LC I really like that round
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Old 08-12-2020, 11:30 AM   #7
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I have a Smith &Wesson 25-5 in .45LC I really like that round


Nothing better! Have the 25-2 an the 25-5 in both 4" an 6"
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:23 PM   #8
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Funny how obsolete guns aren’t.
sure they are. you can half ass stay warm in ENOUGH wool blankets, but they're still not what anyone uses to climb everest, which means that they are obsolete. Nobody wants a wool blanket on the trail when it's sub freezing. A real one costs $400 , weighs 8 lbs, aint very warm, soaks up water like a sponge, takes forever to dry out, and is very bulky. Any one of those things is enough to make it obsolete. There's zero reason to bother with any non-auto, much less a feeble, short ranged one. A Remington 308 sport auto is 10x the gun that any .45 colt lever action is, costs no more, and neither does the ammo. It can hold more ammo, has 4x the range, 3x the power, 3x the penetration. So only a fool would bother with the half assed old lever guns. Spend that money and time on practicing with the real deal.

i'm confident enough in my ability to make head hits, and value the other advantage of the 223 AR that i'd take that even for elephant or any other critter. But lames like you better stick to the 308.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 08:40 AM   #9
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Melvin, again you ignore flexibility. There might be 10 million (+) AR's in North America, but there are 370 (+) million people, different areas have different laws and in some of those places AR's are almost non existent. Putting "all your eggs in one basket" is not a well thought out strategy. Plus walking around like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Commando" is going to do nothing if you choose the "Greyman" approach. You forget that you should never underestimate your opposition. I'm positive that anyone can be taken down by a 100 year old lever gun, a 100 year old bolt gun, a 100 year old shotgun under the right circumstances where the shooter has chosen a tactical position that gives him/her the advantage. Plus, shooting a wide variety of different types of firearms can actually be a fun learning experience.
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Awhile back you were babbling about 308 bouncing off things.
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sure they are. you can half ass stay warm in ENOUGH wool blankets, but they're still not what anyone uses to climb everest, which means that they are obsolete. Nobody wants a wool blanket on the trail when it's sub freezing. A real one costs $400 , weighs 8 lbs, aint very warm, soaks up water like a sponge, takes forever to dry out, and is very bulky. Any one of those things is enough to make it obsolete. There's zero reason to bother with any non-auto, much less a feeble, short ranged one. A Remington 308 sport auto is 10x the gun that any .45 colt lever action is, costs no more, and neither does the ammo. It can hold more ammo, has 4x the range, 3x the power, 3x the penetration. So only a fool would bother with the half assed old lever guns. Spend that money and time on practicing with the real deal.

i'm confident enough in my ability to make head hits, and value the other advantage of the 223 AR that i'd take that even for elephant or any other critter. But lames like you better stick to the 308.

so many things wrong in this post. Wool blankets are not obsolete. Right gear for the right situation, doesn't mean that other gear won't work.

Nobody uses your trash bags to climb Mt Everest, does that mean all your gear is obsolete? You throw out weird arguments, but seem incapable of stepping back and thinking before typing. Guess what, good quality gear can easily cost more than $400.00 - the cost isn't a real argument. I've used wool blankets, and a real wool blanket can retain heat when wet. I'll agree with you on the weight, but you will spend a lot of money for every lb you shed while keeping the same heat retention value. wrapping yourself in trash bags is not a good strategy for a variety of reasons. But why not post a few pictures of your set up to show us how lame we are..I've already posted pictures of my gear.

You go on to claim these guns are worthless, yet those obsolete lever guns can kill you just as dead as any other gun.

I have AR style weapons in a number of calibers, suppressed. I hunt with them regularly. I know my current skill level with one. I also use bolt actions, pistols, and a bow to hunt with. I'm not particularly worried about my level of knowledge or skill.

I really question how many large game animals you have actually shot - what's the last big game animal you ever harvested? how far away was it? was it a clean hit? when was it, we know you cannot legally hunt with a modern weapon.

if everyone you encounter is a "lame", you might want to look in the mirror to see where the real problem lies...
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