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Old 02-10-2020, 08:50 AM   #1
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"Grey Man" Long Guns

What Long Guns would give a "Grey Man" image of not being an immediate threat to someone you met wandering around your AO? I'm assuming that you would have a concealed handgun on your person as backup. I was thinking about a bolt action rifle or Lever action with a 12" to 16" barrel.
 
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Old 02-10-2020, 10:40 AM   #2
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Both lever and bolt action say, Hunter. A dreaded Black Rifle to include the Ruger carbine with the ominous magazine extending get's a more intense look. A slung rifle is non threatening in my experience. The most attention getting is an AR 15 type Carbine, collapsible stock with a 30 round magazine. Everyone takes a second look.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:33 PM   #3
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Lever gun would be my choice in this exercise. rapid follow up shots in a handy package. Totally non-threatening in appearance...
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Old 02-10-2020, 01:01 PM   #4
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Lever in 45 Colt, 44Mag. 357Mag an a handgun to match. Marlin even made a 41Mag.
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Old 02-10-2020, 03:13 PM   #5
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I have levers in all 3 calibers so I'm good to go there, I like the idea of the Mossberg MVP in 5.56mm for a varmint ( 2 and 4 legged) size rifle. In an area where there are no mag capacity limits you could walk around with a 10 rd mag installed and have a 30rd mag concealed on your belt.
 
Old 02-11-2020, 08:04 AM   #6
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My first thought would be a levergun in either a magnum handgun caliber or .45 colt. That was my woods gun for a long time and so is still kind of my fallback choice, but if I was more concerned about human predators while wanting to avoid a gun that looked combat-oriented, of the guns I actually own I might consider the M1 carbine with a flush-fit magazine in place. Looks almost like a 10-22; not "assault rifle" looking at all.

Initial capacity would be limited to 5 or 6, but normal magazines could still be carried as backups.

Of guns I don't own but would consider, I'd look into the Remington 7400/742 series. Never owned or used one, but they seem like they might fill the bill pretty well.
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Old 03-13-2020, 08:42 PM   #7
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you're dreaming. If you're seen to be armed, especially with a longarm, there is no way in hell that ANYONE present considers you "grey".
 
Old 03-14-2020, 08:04 AM   #8
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Welcome back, Melvin, its been a while
 
Old 03-19-2020, 11:26 AM   #9
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you're dreaming. If you're seen to be armed, especially with a longarm, there is no way in hell that ANYONE present considers you "grey".
The original question was about being on your own property with a gun, not on some random property with a gun. Maybe it's a lack of recent time spent in the country on your part, but being visibly armed on my own property doesn't raise any eyebrows at all.

Simply put, there's a big difference in me being visibly armed on my property vs. some stranger being visibly armed on my property. Not only in how I feel about it, but in the legal, courtroom-relevant context of reasonably-assumable threat involved.
 
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