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Old 02-08-2019, 03:41 PM   #1
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What is your favorite defensive lever gun?



In the last 20+ years I have put a lot of ammo down range through lever action rifles, my favorites are Uberti M73 19" Carbine in .45LC & a 1906 mfg Winchester 92 20" Carbine converted to .44 magnum. What are yours?


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Old 02-08-2019, 05:12 PM   #2
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Any of my Marlins, 41Mag. 44Mag. 444 Marlin, 45Colt, 30 30. The three pistol calibers shoot the same load as my wheel guns. 444 loaded with a 300 gr. bullet is a heavy hitter. Also use a 265 gr. loaded with 50.0 gr. of 4895 will punch thru anything. Not a lot of fun to shoot. 45 Colt is fun to shoot, 255 gr. with 8.0 Unique will do about anything. 44 Mag is not bad to shoot with 12 gr. Unique. 41 Mag. is too nice to shoot a lot, mint with stickers still on it. 30 30 is, well a 30 30, accurate with only bullet I have tried, 150 gr. Shoots good enough to have a Leupold scope on it. All of them have scopes, old eyes.
 
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I have leverguns in .357/.38, .44mag/.44spl, and .454/45LC, and handguns to go with the .357 and .454 calibers; and of the three I'd go with the .357 setup. The carbine-length barrel makes a greater difference in power than a lot of folks think, especially in the magnum calibers.

My little 16" .357 levergun pushes a 140-grain jacketed bullet just a hair over 2,000fps; for over 1200 ft/lbs, which (with the proper bullet) can take any game or woods threat I'm going to encounter. To me, that means it's more than adequate power-wise for defensive purposes as well. It also has the benefit of being slightly smaller than, and only 9 oz heavier than, a 10-22 rimfire, which makes it extremely handy; whether in the woods or in a hallway.

I've never clocked anything from the .44 carbine, but the .454 is shocking from a longarm. Power-wise, itís between the .30-06 and .300WM rifle rounds; believe it or not. My simple 20Ē puma .454 launches a 240-grain bullet at 2430fps, for more than 3,100 ft/lbs of energy. Thereís not a beast on the North American continent that that gun canít kill out to a couple hundred yards. Frankly quite a bit more than I want for defensive purposes, but a good .45LC load can do more than adequately well from the rifle barrel. Several +P 'ruger/TC only' loads will hit more than 1300 ft/lbs, and even the non-plus-p Barnes 200-grain schp runs 752 ft/lbs (1301 fps) from it; and that's a VERY light recoiling load from a rifle.

Frankly, imo any of the three (.357, .44, or .454) would work fine, but I'd be plenty content with the lighter & smaller .357 version. If I were in an area with grizzlies or other large dangerous animals, I might choose different, but in our area the .357 is more than adequate for both defensive and hunting uses imo.
 
 
Old 05-23-2019, 10:13 PM   #4
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My Rossi 92 .357 Mag. 20" barrel stainless.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 06:37 AM   #5
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why bother with one? You'll never get it to be even half as effective as an AR-15, which can be had for the same or less money.
 
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Never did I say to not have an AR, but at times a good lever action will provide you good protection while trying to maintain a "grey man" image. Think before you speak Melvin, think outside the box. Remember Melvin, those of us that are allowed to, have multiple firearms for both recreational and defensive purposes
 
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Or if a person were stuck (for whatever reason, for whatever length of time) in a place where you couldn't have a semiauto, a compact levergun in .357 could be an "as good as it gets" option. Same power level as an AR with full-power ammo, instant changeover to subsonic ammo, and as compact as a lot of rimfires, it could make a decent second-tier option. Never be as good as a semi, but it might be as good as some folks can legally get their hands on.

Back when companies were making pump-action AR's for california or wherever, I'd rather have had my .357 levergun than one of those abominations. Plenty adequate power for defense, totally acceptable for game from deer (140 grains at ~2000 fps) to squirrel with light .38 loads, and with a suppressor & subsonics is as quiet as my pellet gun.
 
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why bother with one? You'll never get it to be even half as effective as an AR-15, which can be had for the same or less money.
Honestly don't know prices nowadays, but when I bought my leverguns (1994-2011 or so), they were much less expensive than AR's. Most expensive one I bought was the stainless .454 version at $519; bought probably in 2011. Prices may be different now; can't say.
 
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