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Old 02-28-2005, 01:34 PM   #21
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Javelina are fun to hunt. That's the one critter I hunt exclusively with a bow.

 
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:49 PM   #22
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Javelina are fun to hunt.
Rub it in. Here is an open wound: would you like to pour salty lemon juice in it next? Haahaa. I bet they are. I've been wanting to try it out. Maybe next year!

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Old 02-28-2005, 02:41 PM   #23
 
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Sounds liek the .338 Win mag is your choice.
.300 Win mag is nice, but you don't get over 200 grains with the bullets, and on tough game you want more weight. I'm thinking a 275-gr Swift A-Frame should do nicely.
Problem with the .338-06 is with the heavier bullets, you'll have a trajectory like a .375 H&H, which you said you didn't want.
 
 
Old 02-28-2005, 02:49 PM   #24
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The 275 a-frame is a very good round.

I've found that I like the performance of the 225 gr barnes X with my .338 win mag. It shoots flatter than the heavier bullets, the barnes holds together so well that it might as well be one of the heavier bullets.

But, like I said, the A frames hold together extremely well.

 
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Yeah, I don't know anything about the Barnes bullets but I keep hearing good things about them.
 
Old 02-28-2005, 05:07 PM   #26
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oh, baloney. Good 308 sp's EXIT big elk. It's just a question of using a Barnes"x" or something that doesn't shed its jacket. The Guides are fos. all that the big magnums do is make most guys miss or get poor hits.

kjun i went to africa to shoot plains game on a $5,500 7 day hunt. never got as good a deal any where. but i digress, i took my 358 norma mag. and thumped 2 nilgia quite handelly with it. shot both of them thru the sholders with a 250 grain bullet at 246 and 310 yrds respectivly. i was lucky that i had a guide that was a good friend of an friend and let me use a light rifle for my hunt. legaly i should have used at least a .360 dia. bullet but what are friends for. i would have to had a 9.3x62 or bigger to be legal. the reason you see plains game hunts on the cheap is because most of the predators in the area have been shot out and they now have no control on the heard sizes of plains game. an 8mm remington mag would do fine with the right bullet, as would anything larger. but the 30's are marginal at best, even the mags.

this is to andy, the only one FOS is you andy. i used to be an hunting guide and have guided many an elk hunt. elk are big and hard to put down. but how would you know the only thing you've had down, is you on your knee's. in most cases the with most hunters a 30.06 is better than a mag. because the average week end hunter can't hit an elk off hand at more than 100 yrds. most don't shoot mag guns effectivly on a bench at the shooting range, anyway you dimwit. the 308 i thought you said didn't have any penatration and when hunting elk and like size game (ie: nilgia ), the only way to win is with penatration and a properly placed shot. andy i have killed elk with 243's and 25.06's but it's not recominded even for an excelent shoot.

andy if your going to say things that are stupid would you please do it in the privacy of your own home, and not in print, where other people can see it.
 
Old 02-28-2005, 09:52 PM   #27
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You are a ****ing liar. Many elk have been taken with the 44 mag pistol, and a few even with 357. If you are stupid enough to aim at the shoulder, that's one thing, but the lungs are a MUCH bigger and softer target. So that's where to aim. A lousy 170 gr 30-30 SP exits elk on a side to side shot. CAll the meat locker people at 970-731-3535. They will tell you the truth of this.

yea the meat locker people would know? 223 fan and or andy, just how many animals have you dispatched. now these have to be bigger than a dog and not hit with your car or truck. most likely 0 to 0.0 animals, somewhere in that range. i can assume you've not ever shot at an elk muchless killed one. remember i used to be a hunting guide and i use to guide folks just like you they talk a good storie, but ain't never done what they said. i'm sure elk have been killed with the 44 mag. and 357 mag pistols. but does that mean it's recominded for mr joe average noooo. i killed a deer once with a 22 pistol does that make it a good deer cartrige no.
you can shoot all the elk you want in the lungs and i'll watch them run off into the bush like i have before. then you can attempt to find a dang big kritter in the 1 to 3 and sometimes 5 square miles you'll have to comb to find it. that is if you ever find it at all. andy if you look at picture of an elk i bet you'll find that the sholder is a good sized part of the animal and not as hard to hit as you think.

me i think i'll shoot mine in the sholder and be eating elk back in camp before you ever find yours.

and thats the name of that tune buckoo.
 
Old 03-01-2005, 06:34 AM   #28
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i took my 358 norma mag. and thumped 2 nilgia quite handelly with it. shot both of them thru the sholders with a 250 grain bullet at 246 and 310 yrds respectivly.
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an 8mm remington mag would do fine with the right bullet, as would anything larger. but the 30's are marginal at best, even the mags.

Hmm, first let me say a big THANKS for the first hand experience before I ask some more questions, so "Thank you."

Now, you say that the .30 Mags (such as the .300 Win Mag) is marginal, so I assume you believe it will work, but you wouldn't put that very high up on your list of recommendations. Is that interpretation of mine correct?

The .358 Norma Mag is probably too rare of a round for me. Since I'm not taking it to Africa, I think I'd rather stick with something a little more common. It is definitely a step up that I wish I could take from the .338, but it might not be worth the expense and hassle in THIS case. (That doesn't mean I won't regret it later!

So, since you like the added power of the .358 Norma Mag and think the .300 Win Mag is just marginal, would you agree that the .338 Win Mag would be a good compromise in this situation?

KJ
 
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