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Old 11-13-2020, 11:42 AM   #1
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4895 vs 4064

So, I can't find any H4895 or IMR 4895 (yes, I know they are different, and I have loads for both) - except, ironically in Canada. Might as well be on Mars.

Anyway, I finally found a place with three lbs for 4064, with a two container max order. So I ordered two lbs.

Now I have to work up a new load for my .308's that will work with my suppressor. I know, fun problem to have. Thankfully I still have 8K or 9K or primers and a good supply of projectiles...

been sizing and trimming brass. for me it's a manual operation

so it is time consuming. I do them in batches, size them in the SDB dies, through them in an ammo can, then later I trim them - the SDB dies tend to stretch the brass a little bit.

I'm down to a couple hundred left to trim. I 3-D printed a "ball" handle to put on my case trimmer - makes a huge difference when doing 30-40 at a go.

I only have a single stage press, but I have an automatic powder measure and dispenser.
 
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Old 11-13-2020, 12:12 PM   #2
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Sorry, no help here; never used either one as far as I recall.
 
Old 11-13-2020, 12:30 PM   #3
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4064 is a great powder for the .308, used a ton of it.
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:23 PM   #4
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4064 is a great powder for the .308, used a ton of it.
what's funny, is I've always used 4895. I've gotten very good accuracy and consistent speeds with it. Now I'll have to whip up a few batches of 5 at different loads to see which ones are accurate.
 
Old 11-13-2020, 01:33 PM   #5
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You are correct, when I visited the range yesterday, the store portion still has IMR 4895 for sale. Remember that the propellant is manufactured in Canada and shipped in bulk to the US for packaging. As indicated on the label. Back a few years ago when I was shooting a lot of .30-06 in competitions, I tried 4064 but was drawn back to 4895 when I discovered that all the Lake City National Match ammo in .30-06 was produced using 4895.
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You are correct, when I visited the range yesterday, the store portion still has IMR 4895 for sale. Remember that the propellant is manufactured in Canada and shipped in bulk to the US for packaging. As indicated on the label. Back a few years ago when I was shooting a lot of .30-06 in competitions, I tried 4064 but was drawn back to 4895 when I discovered that all the Lake City National Match ammo in .30-06 was produced using 4895.
but no gun store in Canada would ship to the US, and the whole import thing would make it impractical for me anyway.
 
Old 11-13-2020, 03:49 PM   #7
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Good powders getting awful scarce obviously.
One LGS has powder in order that's supposed to have been here over a month ago. Now it got bumped back two extra weeks!
 
Old 11-13-2020, 04:23 PM   #8
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but no gun store in Canada would ship to the US, and the whole import thing would make it impractical for me anyway.
Even my local gun shop has had calls from the US for product. Life up here will get interesting real soon, yesterday morning each of the 2 gun stores in my small city, sold their last stock of 1,000 Large Pistol Primers. I'm glad I planned ahead.



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Old 11-14-2020, 10:49 AM   #9
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Even my local gun shop has had calls from the US for product. Life up here will get interesting real soon, yesterday morning each of the 2 gun stores in my small city, sold their last stock of 1,000 Large Pistol Primers. I'm glad I planned ahead.



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I've probably got 5k each in rifle and pistol primers for the ones I need, and probably 1k in large rifle magnum primers.

I think I'm good for now.
 
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I'm probably sitting with about 20,000 assorted small pistol/rifle, large pistol/rifle. I'm good for a least 2 years of normal match shooting. The dealers up here are also showing "out of stock" on a lot of their low end manufactured plated bullets both pistol and rifle. I'm betting that there will be an up swing of cast bullet users, for those that still have primers.
 
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