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boati 06-19-2019 09:59 PM

she's looking at a Lee, undecided about
the big proressive or the pro 1000. Itll probably come down to price of a used one on E bay. I've heard you have to monkey with a new one just as much as with a used one, so might as well save $100 or so on the price. I dont see her shooting enough to justify a dillion, but possibly a square deal, if we find a used one for sale.

noylj 06-20-2019 05:53 PM

With the Pro 1000, you have to seat and crimp in a single step. This hurts accuracy, but many are happy to eliminate an extra step. You know Lee is coming out with another progressive press: [url][/url]
Go to "Load Master Zone" site for information on getting it to work. The only issue with a used one is whether the seller got it to work or broke it.

John in AR 06-21-2019 05:29 AM

The only progressives I've owned are Lee Pro-1000. Used my first one for over 20 years, for several handgun calibers. When it got nearly worn out and I looked into the cost of replacing with a progressive of any other brand (ie, Dillon isn't true progressive until you get up to the 650), I ended up going with Pro-1000 again.

For the price of a 650, I was able to buy three of the Pro-1000, and leave one set up for each of my three most-loaded calibers. Means a lot less wear on any one of them, no changing of turrets or shellplates to swap calibers, and this way have a lifetime supply of spare parts if one (or even two) of them eventually does crap out.

For precision bench-rest or prairie dog loads, it isn't what I'd use or recommend. Also, for seriously-high-pressure loads like .454 casull & such, I still use a single stage. But for cheap loading up of large quantities of normal handgun rounds (9mm, 38spl, .357 mag, .45acp and .45Colt) that are more than adequately accurate for plate-running and other normal handgun uses, the Pro-1000 has delivered for me for a long time.

Garand 06-21-2019 04:31 PM

I had a Square B deal 20 years ago but my source for cast lead bullets heavily lubed them so after 100 rds the OAL changed radically and I had to keep removing the dies. My wife won a Dillon 550 at bingo 3 years ago and its still in the box.

boati 06-22-2019 06:51 AM

the new lee progressive price is certainly attractive. For the bullet lube problem, I had the same issue with a Star, 40 years ago. I just dipped a q tip in GI bore cleaner now and then and used it to swab out the seater die (left in place)now and then. I dont remember how often I had to do it, but it wasn't every 100 rds. I'd have found that to be totally unacceptable. But I cast my own back then, and used Tamarack 50-50 alox and beeswax lube. With that lube, I found that you dont leave the ammo sitting around in the hot sun The lube melts and can cause duds and under-powered rds. Ditto using the same brass for primer-only wax ammo and live ammo. I went to using wax in some nickeled cases that I had and never loading live ammo in nickeled brass.

noylj 07-06-2019 04:39 AM

If you are getting bullet lube build-up, it is a good sign of too much lube. If only the lube grooves are filled, I never got lube build-up. You can get seating stems with a hole for the lube to go up into.
Currently, I use my cast bullets as-cast (no sizing) and a very light tumble lube in LLA.
LLA is more a coating than a lubricant and it takes very little to protect the barrel from the lead.

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