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Registered User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,095 | So you shoot someonelses reloads?
I did once, never do it again. A friend gave me a box of soft point .223's for Deer hunting. Loaded up my trusty AR-15 and got a pop!, not a bang. Pulled the bullet and found no powder. Now curious, I pulled the bullet on another round and found a LOT of powder. Disposed of the box. What if the second round had been fired first? I was at the range when a co-worker was shooting a S&W 4 inch .357 Magnum and hit a bad reload. Cylinder and frame wrecked. He got the re-loads from a friend also.
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2004 From: Canadian Badlands Posts: 9,309 |
Days before I started reloading in 1986, I had a member of the club I belonged to load .30-06 for my Garand. Every shot was a new experience. I went out and bought a basic reloading kit plus scale. Took 10 bullets apart, there were 3 different types of powder, 3 different types of bullets and about 4 different weights. When I asked him about this he said "I thought you just wanted something that went bang". Unbelievable |
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2015 From: North Posts: 1,852 |
Never again, last year a guy gave me a few boxes of 38 reloads that one stuck .in the barrel of a 2 1/2in. model 19, was hanging out the end. Pulled them down for the brass. Will not buy gun show krap either. Have some old hunting stuff I loaded back in the 79s that works great. i |
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430 |
plenty of people bought mine, but I'd have to have seen the guy load and shoot a lot of his stuff before I'd trust it and not even then if it was to be defensive or hunting stuff.
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430 |
so you dont trust anyone to reload, but we're supposed to trust everyone to ccw a pistol?
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Registered User Joined: May 2004 From: Central Arkansas Posts: 5,539 | Quote:
I shoot factory ammo, I shoot my loads, and there are one or two guys (who I've known for a long time and who I'd trust with my back, my home, and my bank account) whose reloads I'd trust. But reloads in general, from people in whose intellect and maturity I have no reason to have a huge amount of trust? Not a chance. I don't even shoot commercial "remanufactured" stuff. I think everyone who's free to roam around in public should have the right to CCW. Never understood the argument that someone can be too dangerous to trust with a pocket gun, yet trustworthy enough to be out among our kids at the mall in the first place. Are you saying you don't think people should have the right to reload, or are you saying that they shouldn't have the right to CCW? | |
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430 |
they are not conscientious enough with priming, charging, seating a bullet, but we trust them to shoot straight, only if tactically sound and called-for? cops can't do so after 40-50 hours of instruction with guns, and 100's of hours of practice at stressful decision making as to legalities, but civilians with NO such training, they're ok to handle such occasions?
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Registered User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,095 |
Isn't this Apple's and Oranges?
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Registered User Joined: May 2004 From: Central Arkansas Posts: 5,539 |
Once again: Quote:
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Registered User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,095 |
What does a question about reloads have to do with carrying a concealed weapon?
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430 |
not at all. I just mostly dont read your stuff. Yeah, I've MANY times gone on the record saying most people dont have the self control or skill level to be ccwing. To included most cops. The issue is, who makes the call about the inept being denied?. NOTICE how much resistance there is to REALISTIC guidelines, as in:" react to a signal make a ccw draw and hit 2 guys in the chest, at 10 ft, 5 ft apart, in 1.5 second" (as is highly likely to be what's needed in a robbery, rape, dog attack, etc.) This standard is quite easily attained with airsoft practice but violently resisted by those who are too damned lazy to do the little bit of work involved in passing such a test. They've got 1000's of dollars to waste on plinking and BE and cowboy bs, but dont you dare insist that they be waf at what matters!
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Registered User Joined: May 2004 From: Central Arkansas Posts: 5,539 | Quote:
Because that's what your definition of "realistic guidelines" means. If you'd just let go of your anger and bitterness toward the world in general, you'd quit saying such stupid things. | |
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Registered User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,095 |
Common repeated thread: Airsoft is all you need. I hate Cop's and Dog's. I hate Garand. (Cowboy Action Shoot's)
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Registered User Joined: May 2004 From: Central Arkansas Posts: 5,539 |
And "Carrying a gun is everyone's right. Well, everyone who deserves it. Actually, only everyone who is me."
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Registered User Joined: May 2004 From: Central Arkansas Posts: 5,539 | Quote:
On your "too damned lazy to do the little bit of work" comment. You've spent years (decades) telling anyone who would listen, how great you are with a handgun. And for years (decades), you've shown exactly nothing. Nothing. Because you either can't do what you claim, or you're too lazy to document your claims. When was the last time you had an actual "go-to-work-and-get-a-paycheck-where-they-held-out-taxes" job? You talk about being a black-belt badass, so it can't be that you're physically unable to get a job. I know many ex-convicts including one brother that are employed, so it can't be that your prison record precludes you from getting a job. Or is it because you're too lazy? I've never made claims of pistol greatness, but have posted videos of pistol shooting on a timer. You have never posted any documentation of your pistol greatness; is it because you're lying about your skill, or because you're too lazy to document your claims? I've never made claims of greatness with a carbine either, but have posted video of carbine shooting on a timer. You have never posted documentation of your carbine skill; is it because you're lying about your skill, or because you're too lazy? "Godallmighty" for real, John. An anonymous, online forum like this and you STILL can't find the intestinal fortitude to stand by a set of beliefs or principles without going back and changing your words. If your words make sense, they don't need changing, other than for typos & such. If your words are indicative of genuinely-held beliefs and opinions, you should HATE having them changed even by others; certainly shouldn't jump at chances to go back and change them yourself. But when they're irrational and DON'T have any basis in personal beliefs or opinions, you might as well change them willy-nilly and then skitter like a cockroach out of the room to create the next "milspec 45acp is inadequate for woodchucks" thread... ![]() | |
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Registered User Joined: Jun 2004 From: Canadian Badlands Posts: 9,309 |
Melvin, why do you care so much how I and others spend OUR MONEY? We aren't spending your money. Melvin, Please post pictures of all your plaques, certificates, belt buckles and pins that you have won in competition in the last 48 months. Also please list all regional, national and international matches that you have competed, in any discipline during that time. Otherwise you can just go back to being jealous a little bit longer.
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Registered User Joined: Apr 2017 From: CALIFORNIA Posts: 25 | Quote:
I just gave a "friend" a box of ammo I loaded...I wonder if I should go ask for it back? I think shooting "a friend's reloads" is kind of like letting "a friend" drive your car, or come visit your wife while you're at work. It all comes down to TRUST, and that being a validated trust. I know I'd never hand a guy a box of ammo I loaded "carelessly" but then I also won't hand MYSELF a box of ammo I've loaded carelessly. Seems like people who loaded their own were once into the practice because they were genuinely interested in knowing all the details and producing the very best ammo. Now it seems, as with so many other aspects of modern life, so many have gotten into reloading simply to save a buck...so they dump a thousand bucks into a progressive setup, get their load data from "a friend" while doing zero self-education, then start pumping out ammo with little if any clue as to the many areas where their endeavor could go wrong. Plus, they lack the desire or knowledge to establish their own "QC" methods to insure their "product" is BETTER than factory. Interestingly, I have a friend who wanted me to "teach him" how to load his own 5.7x28...I finally had to tell the guy, "the 5.7x28 is NOT a round to learn on, and in fact, there are so many things impossible to impart to a novice who has not actively engaged in self-study that I really cannot teach him at all." Most of we who load started out by doing our own homework and studying everything we could to learn all about the process and especially the pitfalls. I daresay most of us who've been loading for over four decades have a few stories to tell. Someone who has never even begun to lay their own foundation is simply NOT a candidate for instruction in hand loading - IMO. But I did offer to "repackage" his factory 5.7 ammo for him, knowing that it will be done is small batches, every charge weighed, the chosen powder incapable of a double-charge without overflowing the case, and every case visually inspected with a light before being capped off, with every bullet seated to the same depth. it's a time consuming process, but the result is the certainty that every round will go "bang," and NO round will EVER go "ka-boom!" | |
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