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Old 06-08-2006, 10:11 AM   #1
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What in the world are these intended for...?

Magtech’s “454B” load... A .454 Casull with a 260-grain FMJ bullet @ 1800 fps.

http://www.magtechammunition.com/sto...00000,00000102

I found them when looking for some cheap .454 ammo (there’s an oxymoron for you) to let some teenagers put thru my gun next week. Last year, we went thru around 130-140 rounds of my Hornady and Winchester hunting ammo, and that stuff’s a dollar-plus a shot, so I looked for some cheaper stuff ahead of time this year.

These FMJ-FP’s are primarily what I bought, along with some of their 220-grain solid-copper HP load to check out as a ‘medium-power’ hunting load at 1300 ft/lbs or so.

But other than a relatively ‘cheap’ ammo option in this caliber, I can’t imagine what you would DO with this load, a full-metal jacket handgun load, that’s power-wise almost up there with Remington’s .45-70 rifle load (300-grains at 1810 fps).

Stopping rampaging Kenworths, perhaps; other than that, I can't think of a purpose.
 
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:14 PM   #2
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Maybe some enterprising soul is putting trauma plates on wild pigs?
 
Old 06-08-2006, 07:35 PM   #3
 
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What purpose the 454 in general? None, other than testosterone-boosting, for those who need it.
 
 
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I was told those bullets are just for range use, i.e. the cheapest bullets you can get in the caliber.

Most states it'd be illegaly to hunt with anyway, being an FMJ design.

However, if SHTF happens to turn out like Maximum Overdrive, it could be useful. . .
 
Old 06-09-2006, 07:42 AM   #5
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I was told those bullets are just for range use, i.e. the cheapest bullets you can get in the caliber.
That was my first thought as well, but since they offer a JSP load for the exact same price, price alone couldn't be the only reason for them.
 
Old 06-09-2006, 07:59 AM   #6
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What purpose the 454 in general? None, other than testosterone-boosting, for those who need it.
Interesting response, especially from a grown man who has, over the course of the last several years, chosen pseudonyms for himself that include “Scarlett”, “Sweetie”, “Erika”, “Lucy” and “Blueboy”.

Freudian transference issues, John...?
 
Old 06-10-2006, 06:41 AM   #7
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Interesting response, especially from a grown man who has, over the course of the last several years, chosen pseudonyms for himself that include “Scarlett”, “Sweetie”, “Erika”, “Lucy” and “Blueboy”.

Freudian transference issues, John...?

Nahh just fond memories of the pet names his Cell Mates had for him over the years....
 
Old 06-10-2006, 08:54 AM   #8
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no, just whatever pops into my head. I've used "sender", board, and hundreds of other names, too, so what?



 
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So maybe you should stop spamming like a 13yo when you are banned, and leave the boards that don't appreciate your presence well alone.
 
Old 06-10-2006, 10:53 AM   #10
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BlueBoy is a famous painting, ya know. Too bad you gutterguys have no real knowledge about anything that amounts to a crap.



 
Old 06-12-2006, 10:15 AM   #11
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no, just whatever pops into my head. I've used "sender", board, and hundreds of other names, too, so what?
"So what" is so 'why can't you just be nice?'
 
Old 06-12-2006, 09:55 PM   #12
 
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I thought the 454 was a big one, one of my customers has a 45-70 revolver.
I gotta say, its a cannon. Those little white ivory grips on the back fill a big hand.
 
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"Cannon"...?

Like an SA revolver in .50BMG?
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Old 06-14-2006, 04:25 PM   #14
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Even Marshal Dillon couldn't quick draw that fella.

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Old 06-14-2006, 09:52 PM   #15
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I'd HEARD about those....but i thought they were a Myth
 
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cant .454 owners just practice with .45 Colt?
 
Old 06-19-2006, 10:26 AM   #17
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cant .454 owners just practice with .45 Colt?
Yes. We went thru only 80-100 rounds of full-charge .454’s at the campout this weekend, but went thru several 50-round boxes of .45LC. The .45’s are good for breaking a new shooter in on the gun since there’s basically zero recoil, but they’re not fully adequate for “practice” for the .454’s; they’re such different beasts. “Practice” with this gun is really almost a non-issue after a while, since it’s not a defensive handgun; strictly hunting & recreation. Once you can “put ‘em where you need ‘em” for a hunting situation, maintaining that doesn’t take thousands of rounds a year.

A defensive gun, I do believe you should shoot a lot, to build speed & muscle memory; but imo, this isn’t as crucial in a sporting handgun.

Downside to the .45LC’s in the .454, especially lead-bullet .45LC’s, is the crud buildup on the chamber wall gradually creates a problem for the longer .454 cases. Typically, we let the teenagers shoot 2 .45’s to get the feel of the gun, and then one .454Casull load, to get the real feel of the gun.

By the end of the day, I was having to tap the empties out, due to the chamber crud. Using only .454’s or only .45LC’s, this wouldn’t be an issue, but going back & forth, it is; and it becomes an issue a lot faster in this gun than it does in my .357 revolver shooting .38’s. Takes going back & forth only 20 or 30 times to start to notice it in the .454; the .357 can go a lot longer before it’s a problem.


FWIW, another adult (who brought some .44mag revolvers), also had bought some Magtech ammo in .44 magnum, again with an fmj loading. They must be used in places where expanding bullets are outlawed or something; I really can’t think of a performance-based reason for them, not when the same mfr loads softpoint ammo at the same price.
 
Old 06-23-2006, 05:43 AM   #18
 
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BlueBoy is a famous painting, ya know. Too bad you gutterguys have no real knowledge about anything that amounts to a crap.
Pot calling the kettle?????????
 
Old 09-09-2006, 10:13 PM   #19
 
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Ah,........advice on culture from trailer trash........
 
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