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Old 03-14-2005, 12:25 AM   #81
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Is that the SS196 or SS192 ammo you bought?
 
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:11 PM   #82
 
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ss192 in the white box.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 01:55 PM   #83
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ss192 in the white box.
How many can you get for me at that price? Can I contact him directly?
 
 
Old 03-14-2005, 02:36 PM   #84
 
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If it's open to others I would like to pick some up, I have cash in hand!
 
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I'll check and see if he has any left. He had sold 8 of the fivesevens last month, and I know a lot of people were looking for ammo. I just lucked out and walked in when the truck was there.
 
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Please let me know, I would like to pick up about 800 rounds maybe even 1000!

If he has a good price on NIB 5.7 pistols then I really need to talk to him and pick one up.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 03:22 PM   #87
 
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mickey223,

Whats this guys number? If he will sell me a 5.7 pistol for 900 i'll pick up a 1000 rounds with it. As soon as I can get his number i'll call him.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 03:23 PM   #88
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Dibs!
 
Old 03-14-2005, 03:31 PM   #89
 
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Dibs!

Thats fine, I just want to call and talk to him. I have about 1300 burning a hole in my pocket for a 5.7 pistol and ammo.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 08:00 PM   #90
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I think you will like that gun. I'm waiting on some ss196 ammo now because I don't want to shoot up my SS192 until I know something is in the pipeline to me. I found a guy with a LEO tactical model with night sights, extra mags, etc., but when he quoted $2,500 for it, I gracefully declined.

I have the IOM models and wonder how the new USG models differ except for the obvious trigger guard reshaping.

I think the ammo shortage may be a temporary situation, though, as ammo manufacturers start perking up their ears at this "opportunity". People willing to pay $1.70 for this high speed ammo is certainly going to get some marketing heads thinking...... A couple of more guns shooting this stuff hitting the market and the antis can just go suck an egg.....
 
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Well I did not receive that guys info in time and I was trying to decided if I should back out of the deal I had going and see if he could give me a better deal or stick with what I had going. I had to make a decision tonight so I stuck with what I had going. 1 NIB FN 5.7 pistol for 900 shipped and 300 rounds of ss192 for 180. I should have it in my hands by thirsday.

If that gentleman still has ammo going for that price PLEASE let me know and PLEASE put me in contact with him. I still have money burning and I could always use more ammo.
 
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Sorry been at work all day. He was out of the ammo the next day. He had gotten 12 of the FiveSevens in stock, 5 of the IOM and 7 of the USG. Everybody that bought one, came in and purchased 2-3 cases of ammo. If any more comes in, I'll buy it all up and sell it on Gunbroker for $85 ..... just joking, I'll post on the board.


I first got the IOM with 3 20 round mags and a bonus of 3 10 round mags for free. Then went back and got the USG model. Not much different other than the trigger guard, reversable magazine catch and the serrated grip all on the USG model.

I ordered a custom IWB holster from C. Rusty Sherrick for the IOM due to the unusual trigger guard, and hopefully will be getting some night sights soon through a friend on the city police force.

I'll post some pics when Everything comes in.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 12:20 AM   #93
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Hey, let me know about those night sights. I asked Arizona Gun Runners about them and they said they only work on the Tactical model. Will not work on the IOM nor the USG. I can't imagine why FN would have done something like that, however, but then again, I had a rifle from them that I didn't understand either, so nothing would surprise me.
 
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also interested in the night sites.

thank you.
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Old 03-20-2005, 11:28 PM   #95
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I heard from my local gunshop that Winchester is making amunition for FN, for export only.... So, since this is technically a rifle round that is being used in a pistol, I would suspect it would be a winchester rifle powder, quite possibly 748(?).
 
Old 03-21-2005, 01:04 AM   #96
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Hmm, I would think 748 would be a bit on the slow side for such a light projectile as is in the 5.7x28 round. I often used it quite when I reloaded .223. Used it in .308 as well.

My impression on shooting the FiveseveN is that is uses a rather fast powder to keep the muzzle flash down.

Anyone done anymore experimentation on reloading this round?

I still haven't gotten my case of SS196 ammo yet. Prices on SS192 keep on going up....
 
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Hello, I have been keeping up with the posts and would like to provide and receive feedback regarding the 5.7 reloading. In reply to 7of7, I don't think that FN would have used Winchester powder- I will touch more on this subject later. First off, I would like to say SORRY to Red October – I admire your resilience, To RL56- I think you’re the man and on target with your info, I hope you continue and provide feedback. I feel that I may have narrowed down the powder that was/is used by FN.

Before I get into this I would like to recap and provide what info I know first hand. I own the RCBS 5.7 dies (cartridge holder is needed) I have a few bullets under the 40gr. weight to test- I can provide more info on these if you request. I have also, like most of you collected the specs from the SS192, SS190 and SS196SR for testing. I have also placed an pre pre-order with Impactguns.com for the PS90 (I feel that we need to make sure that they know there is enough of us out there that want the PS90- and yeah, they are the only ones that I can hope will have my name on some list...I pray.) And yes, the round is a true .224 (side note- I am stupid enough that I will try and cut down .223 SS109 NATO Projectile Bullets - M855 "STEEL TIP PENITRATOR" to test)

Anyhow, I think FN used a powder mfg. closer to home, I asked to myself why would they buy from an overseas mfg, spend the time in shipping and then re-export the ammo? It does sound right, when there is even powder Mfg. in Belgium!! Most of us know when FN came out with the Five Seven and the P90(1989-95)- back then the P90 round was a 22gr. plastic core bullet and is NOT mfg. any longer. Winchester would have not been in the picture back then. So after researching and hopefully I will soon have this powder to test, I believe FN used a powder from a company called “Eurenco” a spherical powder from their Belgium subsidiary PB Clermont. It seems to have the same appearance/characteristics of the powder that is contained in the SS190 and SS192 ammo. I will keep you posted if/when I receive the powder. Also, incase anyone has not seen any pics or heard info about the FN PS90 here are the links and info:

FN USA annouced the PS90 and FS2000 to be released to the civilian market at the shot show in Las Vegas this past January. The release (I HOPE)should be OFFICIAL at the NRA show this April 14th-16th. This is when distributor orders will be taken and a firm delivery date provided. I heard this before!!! I will keep my fingers crossed.

Scroll down once you get into this site- first photo
Enjoy!!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...tdays=0&postor
 
Old 03-21-2005, 01:26 AM   #98
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Just found this page that may give us all some leads:

http://www.reloadersnest.com/detail_...=57&LoadID=618
 
Old 03-21-2005, 03:51 PM   #99
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I know it doesn't really pertain to this thread but I'm not sure if it was enough to warrant its own thread. Botach Tactical has 20rd factory original non-LE marked mags for $26. Just got the e-mail a little while ago. Don't know if it's a good price or not but I wanted to share with those that might have the pistol... of course, what good are the mags if the cartridges are insanely priced?

http://store.botachtactical.com/fniom20ma.html
 
Old 03-21-2005, 04:25 PM   #100
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Actually that is a real good price. I paid something like $35 for mine. But I think I have enough of them for all practical reasons.

Now if you can come up with some decently priced 50 round mags for the P90, let me know.....
 
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