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Old 11-24-2020, 10:34 AM   #1
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Deer Shot Placement | Where To Aim For Broadside, Quartering & Elevated Shots

Melvin, this gentleman has actually hunted, unlike you, please pay attention;

 
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Old 11-24-2020, 11:54 AM   #2
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Wish it would do some good, but don't expect it to. The constant claims of expertise while simultaneous making silly comments like the "6-inch circle " target that a deer's brain supposedly offers; things like that.

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...There's no denying that if you can reliably hit the 10" vitals circle of a BIG deer at 300m, Then you can hit the 6" brain circle at 200m.

Fwiw, John, a north american deer's brain is nowhere near that large; even a big deer. This is a 6" sphere:


But "there's no denying it" because the self-appointed pontificator has decreed it to be truth. So from now on, all 'big' deer in the US will have brains that large. That's handy. Then again, with brains that big they may just take over the world...
 
Old 11-24-2020, 01:26 PM   #3
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what you claim that the brain is? 3"? If you get a hit on any over 100 lb critter's head, 3" or less from the center of the brain case, it's going down from a 223 sp, unless it's elephant. I've shot 4 deer, there's nothing to it. one was with a pocket 9mm. All y ou have to do is bait a tree blind, like the bowhunters do. When 2500+ fps softpoints impact the skull, they cause spalling of the skull into the brain itself, and it's fatal, almost always immediately.Such hits make their eyeballs pop out of their sockets
 
 
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what you claim that the brain is? 3"? If you get a hit on any over 100 lb critter's head, 3" or less from the center of the brain case, it's going down from a 223 sp, unless it's elephant. I've shot 4 deer, there's nothing to it. one was with a pocket 9mm. All y ou have to do is bait a tree blind, like the bowhunters do. When 2500+ fps softpoints impact the skull, they cause spalling of the skull into the brain itself, and it's fatal, almost always immediately.Such hits make their eyeballs pop out of their sockets
I call BS you've ever shot any deer. Your idea on skinning a dead animal for Alone shows you've never done it, or even thought about doing it.

2500 fps is slower than most .308 ammo. Military ammo is moving right at 2550-ish, give or take a little. A decent .223 should be going around 3000-3100 ish.

I've shot many coyotes in the head with a .223, and you either get a skull of mush, or the bulging eye thing. many times they'll peek around a tree or from brush, and all you're offered is a head shot. Which I guess is impossible, so never mind.

crap, I just realized that all those squirrels I've head shot didn't happen either. (Basic rule of Squirrel camp, only head shots count. you get 1 point for a head shot, -2 for a hit anywhere else. at the end of camp, lowest score buys dinner on the way out for everyone else). I guess hitting a squirrel head in a tree is an easier target than a human head that is considerably larger.

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Old 11-24-2020, 01:54 PM   #5
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Wish it would do some good, but don't expect it to. The constant claims of expertise while simultaneous making silly comments like the "6-inch circle " target that a deer's brain supposedly offers; things like that.




Fwiw, John, a north american deer's brain is nowhere near that large; even a big deer. This is a 6" sphere:


But "there's no denying it" because the self-appointed pontificator has decreed it to be truth. So from now on, all 'big' deer in the US will have brains that large. That's handy. Then again, with brains that big they may just take over the world...
until they, like Boati, get opposable thumbs, we are safe....
 
Old 11-24-2020, 01:56 PM   #6
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what you claim that the brain is? 3"? If you get a hit on any over 100 lb critter's head, 3" or less from the center of the brain case, it's going down from a 223 sp, unless it's elephant. I've shot 4 deer, there's nothing to it. one was with a pocket 9mm. All y ou have to do is bait a tree blind, like the bowhunters do. When 2500+ fps softpoints impact the skull, they cause spalling of the skull into the brain itself, and it's fatal, almost always immediately.Such hits make their eyeballs pop out of their sockets
so which is it? head shots are impossible and you'll ricochet all over the place, or they are doable, even on animals like deer? can you get your marksmanship skills straight? You claim so many conflicting things, for someone that never lies in his posts.
 
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you're just hung up on the idea of getting 1-2 shots per year, only in daylight, only in season, only on trophy bucks, without bait, being too lazy and impatient to wait for a better shot and getting closer. I have no such handicaps. I' dont shoot animals in the ass or even at 1/4-rear angles, Only assholes do such things. If I'd have been there when that jackoff on the Alone show shot that musk ox in the ass, when he only had one arrow, I"d have beaten him until he couldnt crawl. What kind of incompetent jerk hunts big game with just ONE arrow, and then shoots it in the ass and wont trot 10 minutes back to camp and get more arrows.
 
Old 11-24-2020, 06:21 PM   #8
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I spend more time in the field than you ever will, I also hunt coyotes and predators. I make shots on running game frequently. I hunt elk, javelina, birds, squirrels, etc.

I probably make close to a hundred shots on game in the course of a year, with a number of different weapons.

I also hunt with a bow. You don’t know anything about anyone other than yourself. You sound like an idiot every time you try to project your failings on other people.

You don’t know ANYTHING about hunting, marksmanship, or field craft. This is highlighted by your posts, in your own words.

Quartering away shots are DESIRED shots, they’re what are known as optimal. You just outed yourself again as an idiot. Quartering away exposes lungs and heart. With a bow or a rifle.

Stick to the porch, you won’t get hurt trying to hang with the big dogs.

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Old 11-24-2020, 06:30 PM   #9
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I would love a good quartering away shot on an elk with my bow. While a nice broadside would be good, you seldom get those. Slip the arrow behind the ribs aiming for the opposite front shoulder. Both lungs and probably the top of the heart.

ETA: there is such a thing as too steep an angle, but that's not what you were talking about, you specifically said 1/4, which is a quartering away shot.

I'm shooting a 420 Gr arrow at 290fps, more than enough to get pass throughs on elk. I'm using a 125 gr broad head, and my arrows are right at 19% FOC.
if you really care, and you don't, I'm using Maxima Reds with a 350 spine and a right helical fletching pattern.

Another edit: Unlike some, I'll try to post clarifications when I think they're needed, and I won't start a new thread in some seemingly random place, mid-thought.

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Old 11-25-2020, 11:01 AM   #10
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and, in case you're wondering (I know, nobody is) if I can place such a shot:

 
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