.45 Super 4" Split Nose>2 22 mag RIFLE hit

justme · 09-01-2016, 05:56 AM

the .22 mag rifle has pretty good impact, given the hollowpoint load, each one being 350 ft lbs at the muzzle, from a RIFLE barrel. 40 grs each, at 1950 fps But the Split Nose 45 Super, from a Commander barrel, has 70 grs at 2200 fps. Each of the 2 segments has 370 ft lbs. The splitnose has the advantage of penetrating clothing, skin and wishbone as one bullet, then it breaks into 2 full length segments. It also has the advantage of the 2 overlapping (for most of their travel in the body) temporary cavities, ensuring the destruction of any lung, spleen, liver or kidney tissues "caught" between the 2 diverging wound tracks. the extra velocity of the solid copper .45 Split Nose bullet assures adequate penetration of the yawing .45 segments, meaning more tissue is destroyed by each of the segments than would be the case with a .22 mag hp from the rifle. The effect is that of a 70 sp from an M4 carbine, a truly devestating hit.

The pocket 9mm hits like a pair of 17 rimfire rifle bullets, each of the 22 gr segments going 2200 fps, each having 250 ft lbs. Each doing more damage than a .38 swc, because of the co-joined temporary cavity effects of the diverging, full-length 9mm segments, the hard copper corners being much better at resisting the "wearing down" of those corners (from friction with the body) than lead hp skirts are. The effect is that of a 4" 357 Revolver, using 125 gr jhp. Not as overwhelming as we'd like, of course, but still a helluva hit for an adequately controlable pocket gun.

BigBassMan · 09-01-2016, 06:07 AM

Give it a rest.
Does anybody use the 45 super anymore?

justme · 09-01-2016, 07:25 AM

only those who want real power, without wasting $400 on a corbon slide and barrel, sights, dies, etc.

BigBassMan · 09-01-2016, 07:33 AM

FYI, 400 CorBon uses a 45 acp slide, 40 dollar set of dies and 45acp brass. Just change barrel. Try it sometime, you might just like it.

BigBassMan · 09-01-2016, 08:01 AM

Hey Garand, Not sure what you paid for barrel, mine were around 70.00 each, not sure what that is in Canadian dollars but way less that 400. Somebody sure got ripped off paying that much.

Garand · 09-01-2016, 08:01 AM

Once again Melvin, has been proven wrong! All my Series '70 & Combat Commanders needed were .400 CorBon Barrels, nothing else.

BigBassMan · 09-01-2016, 08:24 AM

Also the 400 uses same 1911 mag.

Garand · 09-01-2016, 09:13 AM

I paid about $100 (cdn) for the Series '70 barrel and about $125 (cdn) for the Combat Commander barrel and around $50 (cdn) for the dies if I remember correctly.

John in AR · 09-01-2016, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justme

...from a Commander barrel, has 70 grs at 2200 fps...

Then why do you claim that it's not possible for a longer 5" govt model to get 40 grains to 2500fps?

09-01-2016, 05:56 AM	#1
justme Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430	.45 Super 4" Split Nose>2 22 mag RIFLE hit the .22 mag rifle has pretty good impact, given the hollowpoint load, each one being 350 ft lbs at the muzzle, from a RIFLE barrel. 40 grs each, at 1950 fps But the Split Nose 45 Super, from a Commander barrel, has 70 grs at 2200 fps. Each of the 2 segments has 370 ft lbs. The splitnose has the advantage of penetrating clothing, skin and wishbone as one bullet, then it breaks into 2 full length segments. It also has the advantage of the 2 overlapping (for most of their travel in the body) temporary cavities, ensuring the destruction of any lung, spleen, liver or kidney tissues "caught" between the 2 diverging wound tracks. the extra velocity of the solid copper .45 Split Nose bullet assures adequate penetration of the yawing .45 segments, meaning more tissue is destroyed by each of the segments than would be the case with a .22 mag hp from the rifle. The effect is that of a 70 sp from an M4 carbine, a truly devestating hit. The pocket 9mm hits like a pair of 17 rimfire rifle bullets, each of the 22 gr segments going 2200 fps, each having 250 ft lbs. Each doing more damage than a .38 swc, because of the co-joined temporary cavity effects of the diverging, full-length 9mm segments, the hard copper corners being much better at resisting the "wearing down" of those corners (from friction with the body) than lead hp skirts are. The effect is that of a 4" 357 Revolver, using 125 gr jhp. Not as overwhelming as we'd like, of course, but still a helluva hit for an adequately controlable pocket gun. Last edited by justme; 09-01-2016 at 05:59 AM.

09-01-2016, 08:24 AM	#7
BigBassMan Registered User Joined: Jun 2015 From: North Posts: 1,584	Also the 400 uses same 1911 mag. Attached Thumbnails

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09-01-2016, 06:07 AM	#2
BigBassMan Registered User Joined: Jun 2015 From: North Posts: 1,584	Give it a rest. Does anybody use the 45 super anymore?

09-01-2016, 07:25 AM	#3
justme Registered User Joined: Jun 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,430	only those who want real power, without wasting $400 on a corbon slide and barrel, sights, dies, etc.

09-01-2016, 07:33 AM	#4
BigBassMan Registered User Joined: Jun 2015 From: North Posts: 1,584	FYI, 400 CorBon uses a 45 acp slide, 40 dollar set of dies and 45acp brass. Just change barrel. Try it sometime, you might just like it.

09-01-2016, 08:01 AM	#5
BigBassMan Registered User Joined: Jun 2015 From: North Posts: 1,584	Hey Garand, Not sure what you paid for barrel, mine were around 70.00 each, not sure what that is in Canadian dollars but way less that 400. Somebody sure got ripped off paying that much.

09-01-2016, 08:01 AM	#6
Garand Registered User Joined: Jun 2004 From: Canadian Badlands Posts: 8,756	Once again Melvin, has been proven wrong! All my Series '70 & Combat Commanders needed were .400 CorBon Barrels, nothing else.

09-01-2016, 09:13 AM	#8
Garand Registered User Joined: Jun 2004 From: Canadian Badlands Posts: 8,756	I paid about $100 (cdn) for the Series '70 barrel and about $125 (cdn) for the Combat Commander barrel and around $50 (cdn) for the dies if I remember correctly.