justme

the .22 mag rifle has pretty good impact, given the hollowpoint load, each one being 350 ft lbs at the muzzle, from a RIFLE barrel. 40 grs each, at 1950 fps But the Split Nose 45 Super, from a Commander barrel, has 70 grs at 2200 fps. Each of the 2 segments has 370 ft lbs. The splitnose has the advantage of penetrating clothing, skin and wishbone as one bullet, then it breaks into 2 full length segments. It also has the advantage of the 2 overlapping (for most of their travel in the body) temporary cavities, ensuring the destruction of any lung, spleen, liver or kidney tissues "caught" between the 2 diverging wound tracks. the extra velocity of the solid copper Split Nose bullet assures adequate penetration of the yawing .45 segments, meaning more tissue is destroyed by each of the segments than would be the case with a .22 mag hp from the rifle.

Garand

And you read this where??

John in AR

Sounds fine in theory, and as I've said many times before, would love to see it.

Garand

Melvin trying to hide the fact that we caught him yet again with BS information. Are you trying to bury the post Melvin?

John in AR

mis-post (wrong thread)

Garand

They only problem with Wildcat cartridges are the ability for them to function flawlessly without putting a considerable amount of work into them and an availability of bulk components anywhere. My Series '70 is a beast when fitted with a .400 CorBon barrel but it is 100x more reliable when fitted with a .45 barrel plus .45 components are available all over North America as is factory ammunition.

John in AR

But you’re missing the pount. Have to factor in the decreed truth that if your total needs are more than 84 rounds, you’re an inept lame who’s going to die anyway.


Yes, that’s sarcasm. I shot more than that today, and let some other folks (deputies doing monthly qualification at the same range) put more than I did thru the gun. Just a .22LR AR that I was trying various loads out of, but a couple of them had never shot suppressed before and to them it was somewhat of a treat, especially when they shot subsonics.

Garand

I put the .400 CorBon barrel into my Series '70 this morning an I'm having a problem with FTE about 10% of the time. The pistol was fitted with a 16 lb recoil spring and I think I'm going to order a 14 lb spring. Plus I just got my S&W M66-2 back from repair so I put 200 rds through it.

John in AR

But it's a revolver, so it's worthless...

For a woods gun, I still prefer a revolver actually. But that may just be the old fart gene coming to the fore.

Garand

While I own a number of pistols and revolvers, I have found that the older I get the more time is spent with revolvers. Melvin, don't take this as an admission that I don't use my pistols regularly as you would be wrong, as usual.

Terry G

How did the magic figure of 84 rounds come about? I carry more than that when I'm just kicking around in the woods.

John in AR

The “84-rounds of 223” thing came from the constant pontification of “you’ll never live to need much ammo”. Part of that mantra is the decree that a person should carry exactly three mags, (one in the gun and one in each back pocket) and three standard-capacity mags loaded to 28 (which many people including myself do), is 84 rounds. Having more ammo on hand means you’re inept and can’t shoot.

To be clear, additional 22LR ammo should be carried; but as for 223 itself, 84 rounds is the number that is appropriate for all shtf use according to the self-labeled ‘gun guru’.

Garand

ROFLMAO!

John in AR

He's completely serious, actually...

Terry G

Couldn't you just like round it off to 100? It wood be easier to remember. I just hate unloading and then re-loading those magazines to see if my count is correct.