Terry G

These new .22's are popping up like mushrooms. Ruger's new LCP .22 i
sis advertised as a self defense gun or a trainer for the LCP/LCP II. Self defense? I've bitten on that one already. Too small to be an adequate training pistol, I prefer a BERSA sized .22 trainer or a CZ with the Kadet Kit. It's amazing how the .22 competition is cranking up. TX22, Kel-Tec 17, Glock44, and now an LCP .22. I'm liking all this, .22 handguns were my first lust.

BigEd

I might get one but it's no 21A.

I really do think it's more of a LCP-II practice gun as .380 is ridiculously high compared to .22LR.

John in AR

I pretty much agree with Ed. The only other use for it I can think of besides a trainer/toy to accompany a .380 LCP would be maybe a tackle box gun, and even then I'd rather have a revolver so it could run with shot loads if desired.

After clocking rounds thru the 21A, no way it would intentionally serve as a self-defense gun, and a larger gun would be quite a bit more fun as a playing gun.

Dorobuta

I'm not a big fan of the .380 - it's not a bad round, and it certainly has killed more than its share around the world. I just prefer the parabellum, if I'm going for a 9mm, even in a pocket gun. I have both an M&P shield and a Keltec PF9.

The PF9 is slightly smaller than the Shield, and has a little more "bite" in the recoil. Surprisingly, it's been a downright dependable gun. I'm yet to have a failure of any kind with it.

Back to the LCP - as long as it has the same manual of arms as the other gun, it is a great training / practice gun - being cheaper to shoot.

Terry G

The "Training" aspect is not a plus in my book. Transitioning from say a all metal Bersa .22 to a .380 Bersar a CZ Kadet Kit to a P-01 is not as much of a shock as going from an LCP .22 to an LCP .380. That little .380 get's BIG with muzzle jump and recoil in an LCP. My Daughter went from a Bersa .380 to an LCP .380 and her first reaction was "Wow! That's different. No too much fun." I'm not attracted to it at all. I have a bunch of .22's, but I can find no use for these short barreled little monsters.

BigEd

What I noticed .... I went to a LGS that had about every flavor of LCP from original to the LCP II but not the .22lr .

The "II" version feels like they took the original LCP and then copied it using Lego Blocks!

I've shot the 1st LCP's and they are not bad for my big hands but this is a joke
Use it's meant for extra small to medium sized hands I assume.
Midgets got to be able to CCW carry too I guess.

I know Hogue does a rubber grip sleeve but that may give it the width of the glock 43x.

Terry G

I never understood buying the smallest pistol you can and then adding rubber sleeves and extended magazines. I'm still assessing the Hellcat. I'm not sure I want it for EDC. Nothing wrong with it so far, just not sure I wan't to give up my P-01.

BigEd

Yep, I don't see buying something small and making it bigger just to fit my hand. I don't know how this "improved" series is an improvement at all.

I'll probably just stick with either a Glock 43 , 26 or maybe a 43X.