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Old 07-16-2018, 10:46 AM   #1
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New holster; new airsoft gun

I'm changing my edc holster, and taking the opportunity to work on from-the-holster speed. Thing is, my edc is an aiwb, and as I heard one guy put it, "If you screw up drawing from appendix carry, you could kill yourself or worse".

I'm 'ok' from the holster, but not blazingly fast. My edc aiwb gun for 2-3 years has been a kahr pm9 (originally a cm9) with 7+1 corbons, and with that low capacity I've been lusting after a holster like a T-Rex Sidecar that carries a spare mag. Unfortunately, nobody makes one for the PM/CM series. Pale Horse Concealment makes an aiwb for the PM (which is pretty rare in itself), and make another aiwb called the "A+" with spare mag, but they don't offer that one for the PM/CM. When I contacted the owner and asked if he could/would make one of the A+ models for the PM, he said he couldn't since he didn't have a Kahr mag on hand to do the molding. Short version, I ended up sending him one of my 7-round PM mags and he's making one up for me. Will be a little time before I get it, but at least it's finally in the works.

On working holster speed, unfortunately again, nobody makes a kahr PM-size airsoft or bb gun, so I decided to go another way. My second-choice carry gun is a glock 19, and there are numerous airsoft guns for it, so I went that route; ordering the gun as well as an Axis rig (another sidecar-style, from Tier-1) for that size gun to let me drill. It was just last week, and neither of the holsters have shown up yet. Looking forward to them and will post initial impressions.

The gun has arrived, a propane-powered gas blowback that's surprisingly similar in feel to the g19. When my now-grown sons were young, they had some low-dollar spring-powered airsoft guns that never really impressed me. But this one seems decent.
 
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:21 AM   #2
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I tried a lot of carries, and settled on the 4 o'clock OWB. I do use a shoulder rig Miami Vice deign with a Glock 21 in the Winter. The AIWB has never appealed to me. I saw the guy on the you tube video shoot himself using a Glock (I think) in the AIWB carry. Might have been faked, but EEEWWW! The OWB carry suits the various CZ's I carry, and since they all wok the same, it's the same draw.
 
Old 07-16-2018, 02:25 PM   #3
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...The AIWB has never appealed to me. I saw the guy on the you tube video shoot himself using a Glock (I think) in the AIWB carry...
Definitely a concern and a consideration; that's why the airsoft glock for training & practice purposes. That said, as long as the trigger guard is completely covered there should be no way for it to 'just go off'. I did see one youtube video of a guy just in an office, and when he bent down to reach for something the gun fired. Thing is, that tells me that either the gun had an unsafe trigger, the trigger guard wasn't covered well, or there was something inside the holster with the gun. No other way I can think of it happening, short of a round somehow magically 'cooking off' while the gun was holstered. So (to me anyway) as long as the trigger guard is completely protected by a rigid holster, the gun is mechanically sound, and there are no foreign objects in the holster with the gun, it simply can't go off until I pull the trigger.

And for that matter, that's not really just an aiwb thing - if I pull the trigger while I'm drawing the gun, I could shoot myself from most any carry position. (Except shoulder carry, which I used to do a bunch of. In that case, I'd be shooting whatever poor soul was standing behind me.)

Definitely planning on being ultra-cautious while building muscle memory. Frankly that's why I'll never even strap on a Serpa holster - doing ANYTHING with my trigger finger during the drawstroke is a hugely bad thing imo. I plan to do thousands of slow, methodical iterations with an empty gun and then thousands more with the airsoft g19. (Already bought 5,000 airsoft pellets and the adapter to run the gun off normal propane instead of the expensive airsoft "green gas"; just waiting on the holsters to arrive to get started.)
 
 
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What material holster? I found AIWB uncomfortable and no faster than behind the hip. I'm much slower with a shoulder rig, but with a heavy coat there's not much choice.
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:18 PM   #5
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Iím slower from shoulder also.

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What material holster? I found AIWB uncomfortable and no faster than behind the hip....
Itís kydex front and back, so very rigid which to me is ideal even though it means the Ďgun tunnelí portion itself wonít flex at all. The way I see it, when the gunís in it the holster wonít flex anyway; so thereís no loss there. And when the gunís NOT in it, imo thatís when itís most critical that it NOT flex, since I want the holster body to be in perfect ďgunĒ shape when I go to reholster. It can flex between the gun and the spare mag, but the Ďholdingí comparments themselves donít flex at all.

Itís a fairly new model with not a lot of reviews yet, but hereís one fwiw:
 
Old 07-17-2018, 08:37 AM   #6
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Basically, it's this holster


but with a lower sweat-guard cut like this one:


The bottom pic is the normal Axis, and the top one is the Axis 'slim'; slightly narrower due to only one row of lashing rivets. I debated the slim vs. the standard, but then realized that I can always make a slim wider, but I can't make a standard narrower, so went with the slim version.
 
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