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Old 11-20-2020, 11:30 AM   #1
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I have no desire to try this or that, wasting time and money, just because that thing is "new. There has to be proof of enough improvement to make me toss out all those thousands of hours of training with the "old timey" stuff. That's never happened and almost certainly never will. Yes, some guys have won with Glocks, but the 1911 is still fully competitive..in 9mm double-stack format. There's no real advantage to the glock. if you train with that tin can trigger from the start, and alter it until it's utterly unsafe to carry in an IWB rig.

there's no rifle with any significantly superior performance over the AR and the same is true of the 223 cartridge. as a fighting rd. There's no denying that if you can reliably hit the 10" vitals circle of a BIG deer at 300m, Then you can hit the 6" brain circle at 200m. You dont see me claiming that the brain can be reilably hit at 200m. But I know for a fact that it can be done quite reliably at 100m from a braced position. You can carry a walkking stick if you are in tall enough cover. If you can sit and see the animal, you can use your framepack to brace the rifle.

There is no doubt that a 223 softpoint to the braincase will drop any animal short of an elephant. There is no doubt that bowhunters legitimately take troph males every year, at ranges of 30m and less. With bait, night vision, passive IR scanner, and the ability to reach 3x as far, obviously the 223 can take the big animals. Also, within 2 months of shtf the animals will all be dead. So you'd have the wasted potential of a 308, not have a concealable rifle, not have a one handed rifle, not have a handy, silenced rifle, not have the .22lr conversion unit. If you hunt big game ok, have a $400 savage bolt action in 308, but dont put $2000 into an M1A. You'll have to abandon or cache the 308, with the bolt hidden somewhere else. So you can ALSO have the AR AND the 308 bolt action and still be $1000 ahead, of what you'd spend on the M1A. That will let you buy the silencer AND the night sight. Dont let your desire to hunt big game ruin you for shtf.

All you have to do to beat out any potential advantages of the 308, is to not be out and about in daylight, and dont make noise.
 
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:12 PM   #2
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Can tell you never handled or shot a Gen 5 Glock. Great right from the box an with a 3.5 connector even better! Maybe a 4.5 lb striker spring.
 
Old 11-20-2020, 12:36 PM   #3
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Melvin face reality for a change, yes the AR platform is a good one, very ergonomic and after 50+ years of trying to make a silk purse out of what was a sows ear, now very reliable. There are many jurisdictions in North America where the AR platform has been banned, and if Biden becomes your President he has promised to get rid of even more of them. Don't give us this "I'll just use an illegal one " BS either. An intelligent prepper can produce very good preparations, that will pass scrutiny by all Leo's if they don't do stupid stuff that is illegal.

Personally if I have to use a rifle to defend myself, I want one with a .308" diameter bullet. This is based on my past experience of dragging one 1/2 way around the world with one for 13 years, plus legally hunting with one for 4 years. Being that your experience is rather somewhat limited carrying a rifle in different environments, such as deserts and arctic conditions I really doubt you have any insight to what a firearm goes through in adverse environments. What is this BS about caching a bolt in a separate location from your firearms, I don't understand the logic of it.

"All you have to do to beat out any potential advantages of the 308, is to not be out and about in daylight, and dont make noise." In the real world this fantasy will get you killed very quickly. Try evacuating your AO at zero dark 30 once you have been bumped by the bad guys with all your gear. And yes Melvin you will need supplies stashed away. Unfortunately from 1880 until the turn of the century a large amount of the wildlife on the prairies was almost obliterated. The wildlife that is currently available in this day and age would be completely decimated trying to feed todays populations.
 
 
Old 11-20-2020, 12:40 PM   #4
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Melvin face reality for a change

That could never happen!
 
Old 11-20-2020, 12:42 PM   #5
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Personally I'm not a fan of glocks either, my choice. Plus I have a .22 conversion kit for my 1911 already. If money is your excuse for not buying what you perceive to be the best kit legally available to you, well I wish you luck with getting along with garbage.
 
Old 11-20-2020, 02:49 PM   #6
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I have 1911s in ,45, 9mm, 38s, 400 cor bon in all sizes. Hi Powers, Sigs. An of course lot of S&W The Glocks are just there, stashed different places.
Also 1911 22 an ceiner for 45

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Old 11-20-2020, 03:46 PM   #7
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I really like the Glock 21. It's my nightstand gun wit a light/laser. The G17, not so much. I thinks the CZ 75 series is much better. When I carry a .45 it's the CZ 97b.
 
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