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Old 01-11-2020, 05:48 AM   #1
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I would no longer bother with a 1911 9mm

at $600 plus and needing a lot of work still done? eff that. J and G sales has Star BM 9mm's for $180. buy three of them and call it good for the next 50,000 rds. (at LEAST) Dont dryfire any of them without a snapcap in the chamber, tho, it'll break the firing pin for sure if you do. Install a pin in the frame, right behind the squared off end of the trigger bar and there wlll be no more overtravel. Remove the mag safety and the trigger improves by quite a bit, too. '

If you can't smith your own M21 to have an extractor, better sights, no overtravel, the PT22 mag and SA only with a speed safety, then get a $300 Armscor .22lr 1911 variant. Saving 15c a round vs .45 ammo, you can afford to by another star every 1500 rds you fire. :-)
 
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:57 AM   #2
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Armscor makes some decent guns at good prices. Never had any trouble out of any of them. That includes 4 9mm an maybe a dozen 45s. Commander, Officer, Full size.
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Old 01-11-2020, 07:20 AM   #3
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Sucks to be you, my wife loves my Colt Combat Commander in 9mm. It fits her hand perfectly. By the way Melvin, how many matches did your "wifey" compete in last year?
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She's full time nursing college, no time for real match prep and I'm not going to have her first match experience be a bad one. Until she's ready to beat most of the men and all of the women, she wont be competing.
 
Old 01-13-2020, 07:17 AM   #5
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Melvin, my wife still works as an RN and when she shot her first match, she came last. That was enough motivation to ensure that she never did it again. Plus if there are other women competing, you can't believe how competitive they get. So knock off the BS, she really doesn't shoot, does she?
 
Old 01-13-2020, 07:35 AM   #6
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She's full time nursing college, no time for real match prep and I'm not going to have her first match experience be a bad one. Until she's ready to beat most of the men and all of the women, she wont be competing.
If you approach it as a fun, learning event, how could it be a bad experience?

The first one just gives an idea of what to work on for the next one. The next one does the same, and so-on. Showing improvement and progress is part of the fun.
 
Old 01-13-2020, 07:58 AM   #7
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...smith your own M21 to have an extractor, better sights, no overtravel, the PT22 mag and SA only with a speed safety...
Mill in an extractor (which it doesn't need; it runs fine without one), modify the integral (ie, milled-in) factory sights, add an overtravel stop on the pivoting trigger, modify an off-brand magazine to work in it, and fabricate an oversized speed safety; all on a pocket rimfire. You really believe a standard 1911 somehow needs more than all that? Other than a better (faster) safety, most factory 1911's are fine after some breaking in.

On the 21, it's a fine pistol functionally and is completely reliable with many loads; it's just terribly weak. Have to remember two things - first, I've had one for over 30 years and second, chronographs don't lie. Even loaded with Stingers, the 21 has the same energy at the muzzle that a .380 has at a quarter mile; that's weak. The day I discovered how weak it was, was the day it ceased being my wife's SD gun. For small animals, absolutely it's fine. For large dangerous things (like thugs), it's simply and mathematically a fairly bad choice.

For that matter, if all that work is worth the effort on such a weak rimfire with only an inch & a half barrel, why is it not worth it on a full-power gun?
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:04 AM   #8
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She's full time nursing college, no time for real match prep and I'm not going to have her first match experience be a bad one. Until she's ready to beat most of the men and all of the women, she wont be competing.
Is all this going on in your mind while on the drugs?
 
Old 01-13-2020, 09:28 AM   #9
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Remember this date. Wifey enrolled in Nursing school, a two year program that requires a four year degree with appropriate majors. But in a couple of months Melvin will claim she's a full fledged RN and making ton's of money which dutifully turns over to him. As far as the mini .22's, enough has been posted about them to show they're no self defense gun. Also, look around Melvin, there are literally dozens of compact and sub compact 9MM around at reasonable prices. Why bother with an out of date bargain basement 9MM? HMMM?
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:59 AM   #10
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Just dreams an schemes like for the last 40+ years.
 
Old 01-13-2020, 10:27 AM   #11
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One of the most personal items that you can buy, is a handgun. Since we all live in different geographical locations, face different annual weather conditions, have different requirements for carrying a handgun, not one specific one is going to work for all of us. Melvin, give it up, not all firearms have to be modified by a backyard mechanic. Just because you like something, doesn't mean I have to take it as gospel, given your limited expose to firearms in the last 30+ years.
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