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Old 01-03-2020, 12:04 PM   #1
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Fantasy & Weaponry by Kurt Saxon

In reading this after a couple of decades I start to wonder if Kurt Saxon knew that in the future, firearms were going to be divided into 2 groups, those that are politically correct and those that aren't? Personally I think he should have included a Ruger 10/22 at the least.


By Kurt Saxon

A pistol for the bedroom,
A shotgun over the door,
A 30-06 for reaching out;
You don't need any more.

If an intruder makes it to your bedroom, shoot him with the pistol. If he's
trying to break in, use the shotgun. If he is fifty yards or more away and
shooting at you, pick him off with the 30-06.

This is the real Survivalist's arsenal; basic, inexpensive, effective. So
why all the promotion of rapid-fire weapons? If you aim at a man and don't
hit him, he' going to move, and probably shoot you. Banging away in the
same general direction is just a senseless waste of ammo. You need
practice, not rapid-fire. You also need a realistic attitude, not a

But fantasy sells. There is big money in Macho. The more awesome your
weapon looks and sounds, the tougher and sexier you look. Girls get off on
rapid-fire. It's the Freudian part of the package.

The Rambo Survivalist image being sold to neurotics is making weapons
dealers rich. It is also showing the profound ignorance of weapons among
the general public.

To know guns, you must understand the three basic methods of shooting;
sweeping, pointing and aiming.

Sweeping is with rapid-fire. Its main purpose is to dispatch several
enemies before one can shoot you. Such confrontations are unlikely in any
actual civil conflict. Raiders don't bunch up. There would be no point to
it. Of course, if you are the raider you would have a better chance wiping
out a couple and two or three children if you have a rapid fire weapon.

Sweeping is also anticipated in cases of moving targets. Proficiency with
the shotgun will do more damage to the moving target than expert use of

There is a psychological disadvantage to dependency on a rapid-fire weapon.
One tends to sweep or just bang away ineffectually. It is the nature of the
weapon and a case of the weapon controlling the man.

An example is a commercial for a TV crime story. One of the heroes bursts
into the room and says, "I just had an Uzi emptied on me outside".
Obviously, the character with the Uzi swept, did not aim or even point. At
least 20 shots and nothing. Of course, it was fiction. But that kind of
shooting is becoming acceptable.

If an automatic weapon is shifted one and a half feet, in 20 or more yards,
the bullets are spaced several feet apart. You could empty a clip on
several people and not hit one. The nut who unloaded several clips of an
AK-47 at a crowd of 35 children in Stockton only killed five. What if he
had had a rifle and had to aim? What if he had had a shotgun and had to
point? Couldn't he see his sweeps were ineffective?

He was crazy but he wasn't blind! He knew how to operate the weapon. But he
was psyched up with the glamor image of that weapon. He was not controlling
that weapon; it was controlling him.

Another TV segment was on the Gulf. Here were all these troops practicing,
banging away at a dune, fully automatic, as usual. I only hope the Iraqis
are on full-auto. I wouldn't want anyone to get hurt.

Yet another segment was at a California shooting range. It told how the
state had 300,000 assault weapons owners but only 15,000 had registered as

There were about ten men banging away on semi-auto, as fast as they could
shoot. They were all pointing, as they were shooting too fast to correct

I suppose they were all wealthy, as ammo costs a lot. Whatever practicality
there might be in such weapons, only the wealthy can afford them.

Watching those men, I could see that their practice was ineffective. The
targets were only 10 to 15 yards away. No proficiency can be gained by
simply banging away at a stationary target from a distance at which one
only has to point.

Watching them reminded me of the reason for the arming of all the American
forces with rapid-fire weapons. During the Korean War it was found that
only one in nineteen soldiers would fire his rifle. They were mostly
uniformed civilians in a no-win war and didn't want to get killed. So they
would just hunker down and try to ignore the Chinese. Having Garands, which
demanded aiming, put them at risk of getting a bullet in the face.

So by the time the Vietnam fiasco rolled around the boys all had the
confidence-giving, noise-making M-16s. They were effective enough for
jungle fighting where one could not aim anyway, even if he knew how to
shoot. It didn't matter, however, since the other side had AK-47s; just as
worthless. Of course, there were plenty enough bombs and napalm to keep the
VC's numbers manageable and most U.S. losses were due to booby-traps. So a
rifleman was about as useful as nipples on a boar.

I know it is hard to believe that glamor weapons with all their sound and
fury, are more hype than effect. However, if one of their proud owners has
it out with any practiced hunter with any rifle, the hunter will win.

Now we come to pointing. Apart from shooting at flying ducks, the shotgun
is mainly for pointing. Man-killing shot is from #4 to 00 buckshot. (Single
0 buckshot has 12 .30 caliber pellets per round). The best killing range is
up to 50 yards.

The 12 gauge shotgun is the most devastating hand-held weapon. Few people
realize how really terrible the shotgun is. The Geneva Convention bans its
use in war but police use it. It was also preferred in Vietnam over
regulation arms, even though a soldier's family had to send it to him.

A buckshot pellet does not have the penetrative force of any bullet of
equal diameter because it is round and not as heavy as the longer bullet.
Buckshot is also fired at lower velocities than bullets.

But they still inflict wounds of maximum size, induce considerable shock
and hemorrhage. Also, when two or more pellets hit, their total effect on
the victim is as the square of the number of hits, not just an additive
progression; that is, two hits equal four times the effect of one hit,
three hits equal nine times that effect, and so on. If the victim is hit by
three Single 0 buckshot pellets it is the same as if he had been hit by
nine .30 caliber Carbine rounds.

For the combat shotgun, it is best to take a hacksaw and cut the barrel
down to the legal 18 inches. This gives it a slightly wider shot pattern
and makes it a little more maneuverable.

Rapid-fire, semi-auto from an assault weapon has no greater killing range
than does the shotgun. And since the shotgun must be pointed, and the shot
pattern is wider, multiple hits per target are surer than with any assault

Next in pointing, is the pistol. Beyond a few feet you want a shotgun or a
rifle. Aiming a pistol is possible, but only with practice. Practice,
however, has made some pistol shooters as deadly at long range as shot
gunners or riflemen.

The American Rifleman article, "Debunking The Debunkers", reprinted in US
MILITIA Issue 1, tells what can be done with a pistol. Read it. For the
most part, the pistol is for close quarters.

You ought to own a pistol and it should be a .38 Police Special with a six
inch barrel. I recommend a revolver over an automatic, since the revolver
has fewer parts to malfunction. And if you don't think the .38 has stopping
power, you just don't realize what you can do when you practice. You may
have been fantasizing over glory guns, the most popular of which is the .45
automatic. Read the aforementioned article.

Several years ago I was in a Los Angeles gun shop. A plain-clothes officer
was at the counter talking to the dealer. The dealer stepped back into an
alcove and reached up to a shelf. A shot rang out. The gun the dealer had
reached for had fallen butt-first and discharged. Before the sound
registered with me the officer had his pistol drawn. Naturally, there was
no threat. His action was pure reflex. That cop was fast!

In the same time period, there was a funeral for a police officer fallen in
the line of duty. The media covered the funeral and some dummy exploded a
bomb outside the funeral home as the attending officers were assembling.
The newspaper featured the frame of the newsreel of the explosion. In it
was an officer with his revolver half-way drawn out of his holster! Both
the accidental discharge and the explosion caught on film showed the
reflexes of these men to be a tiny fraction of a second each. So you can
believe the examples of speed in the article.

Also, if you practice and so become as proficient as those two officers,
both in speed and instinct aiming, you can be sure of a fatal hit before
your opponent can even touch his own weapon.

For the .38 revolver, I recommend the six inch barrel over the two or four
inch. This is because of the barrel's rifling. The rifling gives the bullet
its spin, which keeps it on course. The longer the barrel, the more the
rifling and hence the more spin. The more spin, the greater the accuracy. A
six inch barrel gives enough spin to guarantee about as much accuracy as
you will need when using your pistol.

The glamor weapon among pistols is the automatic, especially the .45. It is
heavier, bulkier and more than twice as expensive as the .38. Its main
claim to fame is its stopping power. But a well-placed bullet is a greater
guarantee of stopping power than a bullet's size. And as the article shows,
speed comes with practice. Reliance in mechanics over skill leads to
overconfidence. Many glamor gun fantasizers are going to die when they
confront a foe who has mastered his weapon.

You may know of whole police departments adopting .357 Magnums or
automatics. Maybe their chief watched too much TV. Again, skill with a
basic weapon is better than reliance on mechanics or power. The punk
spraying lead is no match for a cop skilled with his .38.

Now for aiming. The reason for aiming is to hit the target at a greater
distance than is practical for pointing. A rifleman hits everything he aims
at. A macho fool just bangs away with a lot of sound and fury signifying
nothing; except the deserved death of the ignorant.

Unfortunately, few people aim today. They have mistaken multiple loud
reports for damage. One has but to watch newsreels of Arab-Christian
conflicts in Lebanon, closeup coverage of the fire fights in Vietnam, the
results of drive-by shootings in Los Angeles, etc., to see that moderns
simply are not learning to shoot accurately. The discrepancy between shots
fired and clean kills is appalling. Our honored WW II dead are spinning in
their graves!

Aside from a shotgun or pistol, one should not own a gun not designed for
aimed hits. Anyone who advertises such a gun should be boycotted as a
traitor to his country. Those who decry the deaths of little children
should shame the incompetents but not spare the sellers of weapons which
flatter such ineptitude.

I got a laugh from a news report some time ago. A character named T. J.
Johnston in California, an anti-gun-registration-protester, was burning his
order to register his assault weapon. His cronies were banging away at some
targets ten yards away with more assault weapons. No rifleman would waste
ammo shooting at a target that close.

If he goes to jail he might have time to reflect that one rifleman with an
M1 30-06 Garand could wipe out his whole flock. He might also reflect that
a well-regulated militia made up of private citizens proficient in the use
of real weapons would have no fear of gun confiscation.

Have you ever heard of Sergeant Alvin York? You have probably seen the
movie, starring Gary Cooper. York was a conscientious objector. But when
his friends were dropping like flies he reacted. A hillbilly, he was a
trained hunter from childhood.

He first worked his way around the enemy's flank. He was armed with a 1903
30-06 bolt-action Springfield and a pistol. He killed 20 Germans and
captured l32. Of course, few of those captured knew it was a one-man job.
The point is, he could shoot! He killed 20 men with one well-placed bullet
each. He had no need for rapid-fire. He knew that every time he aimed and
fired a man was dead.

Most American and German soldiers at that time, with their bolt-action
Springfields and Mausers could also shoot. They had to work those bolts and
correct every time they fired. And there were men actually trying to kill
them all the while! There was no getting around their having to know how to
aim and shoot. No room for fantasy.

Among the best combat rifles ever made is the WW II U.S. M1 30-06 Garand.
It is a semi-auto with a 1,000 yard effective killing range. It holds only
eight rounds so there is no tendency to bang away at a single target.

However, don't discount the bolt-action rifle. After aiming and firing, the
bolt is worked as the gun is reaimed, so no time is lost. Most good
military and hunting rifles are bolt-action anyway.

You might be tempted to buy the most expensive rifle. But it is best to buy
the most common, the tried and true, the least flashy.

Pause a minute to reflect; if you were driving cross-country on a very
important trip, would you choose a common car or a sports model? Of course,
you would look grand in the sportster. But if getting there were the only
important consideration, you would want the reliability, and serviceability
of your dependable standard model over the object of your fantasies.

The same goes for civilian combat. You may fantasize owning an expensive
rapid-fire gun, mowing down raiders with ten slugs in each. It looks great
in the movies, but why use 10 bullets where one would do? Besides, raiders
won't bunch up and charge. They will fan out, using what cover is
available, and you will have to pick them off one by one.

Now, if in your fantasies, you used a 30-06, preferably an M1 Garand, and
could shoot, you could make your fantasies pay off. Then, with practice in
making every bullet count, you could defend your territory against any
number of predators.

So if you must fantasize about weapons, fantasize being a better shot than
any thieving parasite. Fantasize putting one well-placed bullet into every
looter with the stupidity to set foot in your community.

Last edited by Garand; 01-03-2020 at 12:28 PM.
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Old 01-03-2020, 01:42 PM   #2
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I like some of Kurt Saxon's stuff. He was the one I learned about thermos cooking from, and I appreciate that a lot. But his firearms views (imo, obviously) are based on secondhand theory and prejudiced opinion.

Never mind the objectively, measurably wrong things (a 6-inch .38 revolver being inherently more accurate than a 4", etc), there's also the subjective, undefined silliness.

For example: "Rapid-fire, semi-auto from an assault weapon has no greater killing range than does the shotgun". I'm no Matthew Quigley, but I can certainly hit things further away - and do it 'rapidly' - with my AR (or AK, or M1 carbine, or even 10-22) than I can with buckshot; which he claims is the only acceptable loading in a shotgun.

Or the "squared power of buckshot hits" insanity: "If the victim is hit by three Single 0 buckshot pellets it is the same as if he had been hit by nine .30 caliber Carbine rounds." That's saying that hitting them with a full load (12 pellets) of 0 Buck has the same effect as 144 hits from a .30-caliber rifle. Just silliness.

I assume it's reflexive, knee-jerk disdain for the gear-tards that we all see at the range and on youtube; the guys that put a $200 titanium forward assist or such on their pristine, unused AR; thinking it will make them more competent. I understand that disdain and participate in it myself, but that doesn't mean that a rapidfire-capable gun makes me act like the gear-tards do, any more than breathing air makes me the same as addicts or pedophiles that also breathe air.

Again, I like a lot of Saxon's stuff, but his gun stuff always reminds me of an equally silly mirror image of Mel Tappan's recommendations. Tappan had a list of something like 30-40 guns that a survivalist "needs", and Saxon seems to think that if you own anything other than - or in addition to - his three recommendations, it's because you're incompetent or
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:03 PM   #3
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I agree the problem with any type of firearm skill cannot be bought with it. Time and effort is the price of skill.
Old 01-04-2020, 04:33 PM   #4
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Shooting is a perishable skill, I know I don't hit the gun range as much as I'd like. I also know that my archery shooting translates very well to rifle shooting - being steady, follow through, deliberate aiming, etc. But, in the end it is not a substitute for actual trigger time.

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