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Old 08-24-2019, 12:19 PM   #1
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john in ark thinks .22lr just bounce off his head

that's how stupid most of you here are, too. A 9" long, 15 oz silenced M21 .22lr Beretta AND a Sig P938, also 9 ozs, weigh no more, (both fully loaded), than a Glock 17 full of 147 gr jhps. :-) the 45 gr 9x21 ammo weights no more per rd than a 115 gr bullet weighs by itself. If you kid yourself that I dont know what' to use when, or that I'm not over 90% as good as I ever was, then you're every bit as dumb as john is, and for the same reason. I've shown you up so many times that if i said water was wet, your petty little ego will make you INSIST that water is dehydrated.
 
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:25 PM   #3
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I don't recall John saying a .22 LR would bounce off a person's head. I believe he said he was disappointed at the performance of a .22LR from the short barreled M21. So was I. I saw the lack of penetration from the M21 and Taurus PT22. The round from a .22 Mini-Mag 40 Grain HP stuck in a 2X4 target frame. The base of the bullet stuck out. Same with the round nose bullet. I put my Wife's PT in the safe and there it rest's. For a 9MM I'll stick with a 14 pus 1 CZ P-01 and 124 Grain Golden Sabers.

As far as proficiency with a firearm you lose your competitive edge fairly quickly. It's a perishable skill like anything with hand to eye co-ordination. To think you still would be as good as you were even a year ago is fantasy. Forty years ago? Come on, your dreaming and you must be aware of it.
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As far as proficiency with a firearm you lose your competitive edge fairly quickly. It's a perishable skill like anything with hand to eye co-ordination. To think you still would be as good as you were even a year ago is fantasy. Forty years ago? Come on, your dreaming and you must be aware of it.

It is a perishable skill even when you shoot, for the average person because of aging. Even though I practice and shoot matches on a regular basis I have noticed a significant difference in my ability from 10 years ago, to today.
 
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I don't recall John saying a .22 LR would bounce off a person's head. I believe he said he was disappointed at the performance of a .22LR from the short barreled M21.
Shhh... You'll confuse the retarded angry kid with historically-accurate info.

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...I saw the lack of penetration from the M21 and Taurus PT22. The round from a .22 Mini-Mag 40 Grain HP stuck in a 2X4 target frame. The base of the bullet stuck out. Same with the round nose bullet.
Yes, but that was trying to penetrate mighty pine board. Much harder than human bone, you realize...

And once again, you're allowing personally-witnessed historical truth to interrupt a sermon.
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:24 AM   #6
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[QUOTE=boati;293241]that's how stupid most of you here are, too. A 9" long, 15 oz silenced M21 .22lr Beretta AND a Sig P938, also 9 ozs, weigh no more, (both fully loaded), than a Glock 17 full of 147 gr jhps. :-)

I thought we were talking about very concealable "pocket pistols", now you have a 9 inch long .22? Why carry it at all? You can carry a full stoked G17 by your own admission just as easily. You would rather have a short barreled .22 in a fight? None of your conclusions make any sense.
 
Old 08-26-2019, 02:15 PM   #7
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john in ark thinks .22lr just bounce off his head...
I never said that.

You, however, have said that Level 3 armor is 5lbs, soft, and concealable.

You have said that a 9x18 makarov is inferior to a 380acp. Same diameter bullet, with more mass, at higher velocity. Yet you claim it's "inferior" just because you don't like it.

You have said that a .45acp hardball load is inadequate to reliably stop a woodchuck. Wow.

You have said that you've witnessed a .45-caliber hollowpoint, driven to ~1400fps, at a distance of 15 feet, having so little effect on a beagle that the little dog just looked at you and walked off. John, that's 800ft/lbs of muzzle energy, on a 25lb dog. And you claim it had no effect? If someone claimed they had shoved a dowel rod thru-&-thru the beagle and it had no effect, you'd call them a liar or fool; and rightly so. Yet for some reason, you expect people to believe that a supersonic jacketed hollowpoint bullet doing the same thing is completely reasonable.


See the difference? I did NOT say that a 22lr would bounce off my head. You DID say all the above stupid crap; plus a hundred other examples of stupid crap. Those are just the first few that come to mind.
 
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I remember someone, could it have been gun kid, or .223, or boati? that said a miss with a .44 Magnum was more effective than a hit with a .22 LR? Something like the muzzle blast of a .44 Magnum would blow back your hair and stun you while "peripheral hit with a .22 wouldn't have any effect." I'm pretty much quoting verbatim.
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