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John in AR 11-12-2018 07:48 AM

Playing with a P90
Fired my first 5.7x28 the other day. A friend who I hadnít seen in over a year was driving across arkansas and stopped to see me. We went to lunch, which turned into me taking him to the house build site, which (of course) turned into a shooting session at the pond. Heís an SOT or whatever terminology is correct; basically heís a class-3 dealer and has a lot of toys, including probably a dozen or so full-auto things.

One of the things he had in his vehicle was a select-fire P90 with Saker 556 suppressor. Iíve fired a fair number of full auto things, but donít personally own anything class-3 except for some suppressors. Besides the cost of legally purchasing initially, I also donít want the expense of feeding full-auto things. At 40 cents per round and 15 rounds per second, thatís $6 per second on full auto, and that hurts my brain.

It was fun enough. I also really donít like the position of the forward hand, but thatís the price to be paid for that kind of gun I guess. Had good trijicon dot on it and the saker really kept the blast down to near nothing, but the ejection port is right in your face and when it got hot, I started getting smoke drifting up into my eye from it.

I did like the trigger mechanism. Even when set on full auto, if you pull the trigger slightly you get one round. Pull the trigger all the way back and you get full auto. I'd never fired one that operated like that and really liked the approach.

Basically, if I were starting out, I might be tempted by the 5.7 round; and I can see why people seem to like it as a defensive caliber. It can work in both long guns and handguns (although not really compact handguns), it has some decent ammo choices, the ammo is lightweight and small, and the bullpup design would make even a 16Ē carbine quite compact. But at this stage, I just canít see starting another new caliber. I caved in and started messing with .300 blackout three our four years ago (and like it), but no desire at all to look into any new calibers. For now I'll just stick with the plain old AR carbine and 9mm handgun for defensive purposes.

That said, it was a fun afternoon. Shot the P90 (full-auto, suppressed), and an FN .45acp (suppressed) as well. And even as into guns as he is, he'd never seen the Tau SCD that was on my edc glock, and he liked the concept as much as I do.

He had a select-fire G3 with him as well, but I declined it. Last full auto .308 I shot was on a bipod at Ft. Benning more than 35 years ago. :unhappy:

BigEd 11-12-2018 02:31 PM

Yeah when Uncle Sam was buying the ammo it was one thing.

I do regret not investing in some FA NFA stuff back before the registry was slammed shut.

But being in my early 20's I didn't really have the dough to do it. I tried to convince my Father in going in in a M2 Browning .50. Just for the investment. But nope no dice.

John in AR 11-12-2018 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=BigEd;289887]...I tried to convince my Father in going in in a M2 Browning .50. Just for the investment. But nope no dice.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea of this friend's total full-auto inventory, but it's a bunch. I know he has numerous belt-fed stuff, from an old 1919 MG to belt-fed suppressed AR's in 9mm and 22LR.

Box-fed FA stuff, he has a bunch. As long as it's his ammo we're shooting, I'm okay with it. But six dollars per second just hurts me; even when it's someone else's money. :crap:

michaelc012 08-11-2019 04:32 PM

Dont Play with Guns.

John in AR 08-12-2019 05:28 AM

[QUOTE=michaelc012;293033]Dont Play with Guns.[/QUOTE]
Guns, vehicles, and numerous other things should not be played with by children, but grownups often do. Hence, we have IPSC, USPSA, NASCAR, biathlons and all kinds of things that we otherwise wouldn't.

Dorobuta 08-12-2019 08:41 AM

I've been tempted to get into the 5.7, but I also don't need another caliber to feed. Between the rifles and the handguns, I just don't want yet another to stock and replenish...

John in AR 08-12-2019 08:51 AM

Dorobuta - agree completely. It was a neat gun and I was surprised by how much I liked that trigger approach, but I'm in the same boat as you, not wanting another caliber to mess with. I recently built a gun closet in our house and am seriously looking at selling off some stuff; not at all interested in acquiring more at this point.

Terry G 08-12-2019 06:19 PM

Last Winter I did an ammo inventory and swore an oath NO NEW CALIBERS. 7.62 Nagant? What was I thinking?

John in AR 08-13-2019 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Terry G;293057]Last Winter I did an ammo inventory and swore an oath NO NEW CALIBERS. [COLOR="Blue"]7.62 Nagant? What was I thinking[/COLOR]?[/QUOTE]

:laugh: That's kind of where I am with the 9x18. It's actually an ok caliber if loaded thoughtfully, but it's not one of my primary defensive calibers, I don't reload for it, and I don't shoot it recreationally. Only reason I still have it is that I have two guns and a bunch of ammo (mostly non-reloadable) for it on hand. I should find someone who wants the guns & ammo and get rid of all of it; but haven't bothered yet. Too much else going on.

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