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Old 06-05-2016, 07:41 PM   #1
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hell NO I aint happy, wifey spending 1.5k on AR

but that's what you have to pay to have a maximally versatile/effective combat and survival rifle. Everything else is worth less or costs more. and quite a few cost more and aint worth as much, too. :-)

you can go with a mini-14, .22 unit, and have a less accurate, less durable rifle, without the easy changed barrel, without the sightline over the silencer, without the threaded muzzle, with a truly crappy trigger pull and no luminous sights, no chromed bore/chamber, no option of other twists or barrel length, no concealability, no buying it as a stripped lower, nor of getting it as an 80% finished lower.

you can pay more for a 223 krink, valmet 223, or an HK93, , and have fewer of the good options, too. (but still have a .22 unit)
 
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:42 PM   #2
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with that pos clinton or a godamned commie maybe becoming prez, a decent rifle might well cost 3-4x as much by xmas. If you want one, you'd better get it a lot sooner than that.
 
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wifey's getting 8.5k of loans and 2.5k of grants for college in August. The grant covers her actual expenses, and if she works as a nurse, all of her loans will be forgiven. So, spending it all on guns, accessories, components and 22 ammo, meh. :-) Cant lose on it as these prices, or at least, can't lose enough to matter any. I have adequate savings and income to cover us until she gets her loans/grants in January. Then it will be time for the silver and gold coins. :-) She doesn't really understand all this, altho she's on board for it (up to a point, at least) She grew up seeing what disasters befall the un-prepped, and has a daughter to raise. So, as long as the stuff is readily saleable, she's ok with buying it. I made sure of all that before I went to get her.
 
 
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wifey's getting 8.5k of loans and 2.5k of grants for college in August. The grant covers her actual expenses, and if she works as a nurse, all of her loans will be forgiven. So, spending it all on guns, accessories, components and 22 ammo, meh. :-) Cant lose on it as these prices, or at least, can't lose enough to matter any. I have adequate savings and income to cover us until she gets her loans/grants in January. Then it will be time for the silver and gold coins. :-) She doesn't really understand all this, altho she's on board for it (up to a point, at least) She grew up seeing what disasters befall the un-prepped, and has a daughter to raise. So, as long as the stuff is readily saleable, she's ok with buying it. I made sure of all that before I went to get her.
Who are you kidding? Yourself? I financed RN School and Nurse Anesthetist School. Your lying like hell. Loans have to be paid back in all cases. Grant's dontr begin to cover costs. Your "wifey" and all this Nurse crap is just that.
 
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Some hospitals offer contractual programs to new hires that include paying off the employee's student loans. Basically, you agree to work for them for "X" years, and at the end of that time, they pay off your loans. Military does similar, sending folks thru whatever school (airplane mechanic, dentist, whatever) with the caveat that you've signed up to work for them for a certain number of years after the training is done.

So the loans aren't actually forgiven, they're just eventually paid for by the employer. Effectively a modern version of indentured servitude, really.
 
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Having put my 1st wife and 1 daughter through college I have an idea what it costs and if Melvin is going to waste money like he says he is, she will become a VERY unhappy camper down the road and he will pay through the nose for it. Melvin, stop being a cheap prick, quality costs! Suck it up buttercup.

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Old 06-06-2016, 03:05 PM   #7
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Some hospitals offer contractual programs to new hires that include paying off the employee's student loans. Basically, you agree to work for them for "X" years, and at the end of that time, they pay off your loans. Military does similar, sending folks thru whatever school (airplane mechanic, dentist, whatever) with the caveat that you've signed up to work for them for a certain number of years after the training is done.

So the loans aren't actually forgiven, they're just eventually paid for by the employer. Effectively a modern version of indentured servitude, really.
John, my Daughter, a HS Valedictorian and a 4.0 private college graduate looked at all these programs, applied and got grants and still it cost a young fortune. The hospital loan programs benefit the hospitals. A R.N.Nurse will never see any real money for years under the hospital "Help" programs. The Nurse Anesthetist training program is even more brutal. Tution for the program, plus the fact you can't work for the two years your training. My Daughter is making a very good living now, but the initial cost is a bear. No grants available, just loans. Besides all that Nitko is lying through his dentures about the "wifey". The whole thing is too far fetched for words.
 
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people in other fields don't get any loan forgiveness. She wants to go on to become a nurse-practictioner, and if possible, an anethecist. NP pays nearly 2x as much as a nurse gets, and anethecist makes nearly twice as much again (ie, up to 180k per year, with COL increases) It's very difficult to get such licensure and there's a very high burnout rate. So the silencer and full auto manufacturing license is the backup plan.
 
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Melvin, do you have any idea how many years that these qualifications will take to achieve? Do you think that they start at $180,000? You are making an assumption that she is even pass? Wake up and smell the friggin coffee and don't count your chickens before they have hatched.
 
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people in other fields don't get any loan forgiveness. She wants to go on to become a nurse-practictioner, and if possible, an anethecist. NP pays nearly 2x as much as a nurse gets, and anethecist makes nearly twice as much again (ie, up to 180k per year, with COL increases) It's very difficult to get such licensure and there's a very high burnout rate. So the silencer and full auto manufacturing license is the backup plan.
I wonder if anyone believes you?
 
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Melvin, do you have any idea how many years that these qualifications will take to achieve? Do you think that they start at $180,000? You are making an assumption that she is even pass? Wake up and smell the friggin coffee and don't count your chickens before they have hatched.
Let's see (personal knowledge and footing some of the bill). Four year college with Biology degree, 2 years to be an RN, 1 to 2 years experience in the ER or ICU, at least a year to be accepted for NA training, two years Anesthetist School. The RN training can be a one year course if you are accepted for the accelerated course. You can't work for that year of course, nor can you work for the two years of NA training. You better have some gold buried in the back yard to pay for this, or have (used to be) well off parents. Figure out the time factor. Melvin, you don't have the time or the money. This like the web site you were going to get rich on and the Senator you were going to bribe. You just make it up.
 
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wifey's getting 8.5k of loans and 2.5k of grants for college in August. The grant covers her actual expenses, and if she works as a nurse, all of her loans will be forgiven. So, spending it all on guns, accessories, components and 22 ammo, meh. :-) Cant lose on it as these prices, or at least, can't lose enough to matter any. I have adequate savings and income to cover us until she gets her loans/grants in January. Then it will be time for the silver and gold coins. :-) She doesn't really understand all this, altho she's on board for it (up to a point, at least) She grew up seeing what disasters befall the un-prepped, and has a daughter to raise. So, as long as the stuff is readily saleable, she's ok with buying it. I made sure of all that before I went to get her.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:53 AM   #13
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Saw some interesting stats recently that made me think of this topic. Typically 1% or less of student loan forgiveness applications are actually approved. The below are different years, different details, but all run right about the same ratio - one percent or less.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/student...-are-accepted/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/education...veness-program

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...far-2018-09-20 (Love this one - less than a hundred approved, out of 29,000 applicants; a 99.6% denial rate)

Or this one: https://www.daveramsey.com/blog/stud...an-forgiveness Out of 73,554 applicants 73,036 did NOT get their loans forgiven.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:27 PM   #14
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There you go again John. Ruining a perfectly good lie Melvin told 3 1/2 years ago. There it is: "Wifey's going to start August of 2016 in Nursing School." Now she's going to start in 2020. Man, forget the anti-drug commercials, just print out Melvin's posts. There ARE good career's in the Medical field, but be prepared to work like hell and either have a lot of money to start with or be prepared to pay back the price of a small house.
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If wifey had one brain cell she would make sure Mel in never within 100 miles of ANY firearm.
 
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Any bets on how much longer she puts up with Melvin?
 
Old 01-14-2020, 06:51 AM   #17
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...There ARE good career's in the Medical field, but be prepared to work like hell and either have a lot of money to start with or be prepared to pay back the price of a small house.
My wife was a medical technologist for nearly 30 years; 7-8 years in Houston before we moved to Arkansas, and then right at 20 years at Children’s Hospital here. She managed to get through college with no student loan debt; via a combination of going to community college her first two years, and living at home while going to a state college in Galveston her last two. She did get some help from her parents, but not a ton as she had two other sisters in college at the same time; it was largely by choosing as inexpensive (in-state) a college as she could and also working 30-40 hours a week at a fabric store the whole time she was in school.

She’s smarter than me; what can I say.
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A very good explanation of how the Medical Educational System works. You have unfortunately burst Melvin's balloon again. Not to worry though, there be another scheme. What happened to the National Guard? I thought she'd be at least a Major by now.
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Or a 2 star General.
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:15 PM   #20
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I wonder if she's even around anymore. Past the minimum time to stay married to Bozo and still remain in the States.
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