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Old 04-21-2016, 03:24 PM   #1
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Cool Finn Model 39,VKT/SA Hex receiver 1944....

...made a score. $450.00+880 rounds of 182 grain(Yugoslavian M30) brass cased and 440 rounds of 1980 Russian ball in a sardine can...mid was selling on Armslist, along with some VERY nice Yugoslavian captured Mausers...they tempted me as well,but the Finn and the additional ammo was TOO good a deal to pass up on.
Nice rifle- next time I run my Model 44 or Type53, this will come along for the range trip.
 
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Old 04-21-2016, 03:48 PM   #2
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...made a score. $450.00+880 rounds of 182 grain(Yugoslavian M30) brass cased and 440 rounds of 1980 Russian ball in a sardine can...mid was selling on Armslist, along with some VERY nice Yugoslavian captured Mausers...they tempted me as well,but the Finn and the additional ammo was TOO good a deal to pass up on.
Nice rifle- next time I run my Model 44 or Type53, this will come along for the range trip.
Good deal! Post some pictures if you get a chance. That's a LOT of ammo to kick in with a Finnish M39 for $450.00. The Finnish rifles are starting to get a little thin in the C&R market. I have a real thing for the WWII battle rifles.
 
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All I got is an Android phone. How do I post pics on to the site/forum from a mobile?
 
 
Old 04-22-2016, 05:09 AM   #4
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Just curious, what is the recoil like in a short barrel like the M39 has compared to a Moisn Nagant?
 
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The Soviet M39 does recoil a little bit more IMHO but main thing is an increase in muzzle blast. About like a model 44.

The Finn model 39 is rather mild as the barrel and stock are a bit beefier and IIRC the barrel is still around 26-28".

The Finn VKT is one of the MN rifles I regret not keeping that and the Hungarian M44 and Soviet M39.
 
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I've found that the M39's don't recoil as bad as you might think... Subjective, I guess. Stock design helps. With the M44 and T53, they bark at both ends- but if you snug in properly and lean into it they're manageable. I shot a few M38's and THOSE things definitely punch back at you...weight of the 44/53 bayonet assembly actually helps. 91-30? Normal recoil, at least for me.
 
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I'll stick with my M1896 Swedish Mauser, in 6.5x55mm, recoil is comparable to an AR and a flat trajectory to 500 yds. I've got over 300 rds of brass set aside and twice that in cast lead gas checked bullets.
 
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If I was going to bother with one, I"d enlay some wood for a cheekpc, make certain that the length of pull was correct for me and add a shotgun recoil pad.
 
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M39 is still most definitely a Mosin. But,at least for me; the stock is well designed and fits me. VERY good trigger, BTW,and the sights seem a bit easier to pick up compared to some other variants.
Still like my M44&T53, but this is a nice one.
 
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The Soviet M39 does recoil a little bit more IMHO but main thing is an increase in muzzle blast. About like a model 44.

The Finn model 39 is rather mild as the barrel and stock are a bit beefier and IIRC the barrel is still around 26-28".

The Finn VKT is one of the MN rifles I regret not keeping that and the Hungarian M44 and Soviet M39.
By any chance did you mean " Model 38"?
 
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the cheekpc area should taper down/forward, so recoil does not drive it up into your cheekbone.
 
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Only one of the MN's that ever really beat me up that way, was the M38- amazing what a difference the weight of the bayonet and mounting hardware makes...but for me,it was more of a " really hard ,straight back " pounding... If I didn't lean into it consciously, on my skinny frame it tended to be noticeable... M44 ,not as bad.Full sized 91-30's and Finns? Barely noticeable by comparison.... Subjective, I guess.
 
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increase a 7 lb guns' weight by 2 lbs, reduce the recoil by 28%. Gas op autos dont really reduce the recall at all, but we FEEL less cause the recoil is spread out for a few more microseconds. Shotgun recoil pad does the same thing. You are still being hit just as hard, but because your inertia is being "given" a fraction of a second longer to start moving, you "give" with the recoil a bit, enough to be noticable.

same thing when you tighten up your abs at a punch,and exhale sharply, moving gut backwards an inch or so, depends upon how fast you can move and how fast the punch is. Done right, it "robs' the punch of a lot of power. Moon hit me in the guts one time, cause I was joking with him, but a Korean guard witnessed it. I was ready and altho the blow knocked me back a few feet, losing my feet for a second, and I hit the wall in the guard shack., I was ok.

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Most autos of similar caliber and weight do have less subjective recoil. Still, there's something I enjoy about going to town on the 3-400 meter berms with the irons ,a bandolier of stripper clips;and doing it with an old turnbolt workhorse. Probably the same reason the autos I favor are (comparatively) crude next to their more modern descendants and evolved contemporaries (AK's and such)- the reduced ammunition sensitivity for function and parts wear...even the Garand and the issue M14(which I like) resulted in US ammo for the military including a different(read" less hot") loading for the 30.06 to save wear & breakage on the OP rod. Likewise, the Romanian PSL could NOT run a steady diet of bullet weights heavier than the typical " Light Ball"(147-150) without modifications... Most of those old turnbolt and " KalashnCaveman" arms will chug right along.
Call it a " Workhorse vs a Racehorse " or a " Fighting Dog vs a Showdog".. Each have their places,with SOME overlap.
 
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By any chance did you mean " Model 38"?
Yep my bad been a long freaking week.
 
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No worries. I'm just sipping my Casa Viejo Tequila (Reposado) ,watching a " Person of Interest " rerun ;and waiting for the Gods and Goddesses of Scheduling to kick out some hours for next week. And considering a walk " downrange ". Been a while since I had anything approaching fun.
 
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I've had little but fun ever since Wifey got here. :-)
 
Old 04-22-2016, 06:01 PM   #18
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Good. She sounds like she's worth keeping around. And,hopefully; you are in for the long haul. Back up the hill. You and I vet annoyed at each other on occasion, but I truly hope this is the Good Thing for you. God Bless You And Yours( for what that's worth coming from me).
 
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thanks much. Maybe we will meet one day. Wifey wants CA, but they are just too crowded, polluted, anti gun and statist for me. Maybe OR, tho
 
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I'm told by a friend (different branch,but we crossed paths different places overseas) that Eastern Oregon and Western Oregon have a different mindset with regards to the RKBA, and government in general.
 
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