gripper

...made a score. $450.00+880 rounds of 182 grain(Yugoslavian M30) brass cased and 440 rounds of 1980 Russian ball in a sardine can...mid was selling on Armslist, along with some VERY nice Yugoslavian captured Mausers...they tempted me as well,but the Finn and the additional ammo was TOO good a deal to pass up on.
Nice rifle- next time I run my Model 44 or Type53, this will come along for the range trip.

Terry G

Good deal! Post some pictures if you get a chance. That's a LOT of ammo to kick in with a Finnish M39 for $450.00. The Finnish rifles are starting to get a little thin in the C&R market. I have a real thing for the WWII battle rifles.

gripper

All I got is an Android phone. How do I post pics on to the site/forum from a mobile?

Garand

Just curious, what is the recoil like in a short barrel like the M39 has compared to a Moisn Nagant?

BigEd63

The Soviet M39 does recoil a little bit more IMHO but main thing is an increase in muzzle blast. About like a model 44.

The Finn model 39 is rather mild as the barrel and stock are a bit beefier and IIRC the barrel is still around 26-28".

The Finn VKT is one of the MN rifles I regret not keeping that and the Hungarian M44 and Soviet M39.

gripper

I've found that the M39's don't recoil as bad as you might think... Subjective, I guess. Stock design helps. With the M44 and T53, they bark at both ends- but if you snug in properly and lean into it they're manageable. I shot a few M38's and THOSE things definitely punch back at you...weight of the 44/53 bayonet assembly actually helps. 91-30? Normal recoil, at least for me.

Garand

I'll stick with my M1896 Swedish Mauser, in 6.5x55mm, recoil is comparable to an AR and a flat trajectory to 500 yds. I've got over 300 rds of brass set aside and twice that in cast lead gas checked bullets.

nikto

If I was going to bother with one, I"d enlay some wood for a cheekpc, make certain that the length of pull was correct for me and add a shotgun recoil pad.

gripper

M39 is still most definitely a Mosin. But,at least for me; the stock is well designed and fits me. VERY good trigger, BTW,and the sights seem a bit easier to pick up compared to some other variants.
Still like my M44&T53, but this is a nice one.

gripper

By any chance did you mean " Model 38"?

nikto

the cheekpc area should taper down/forward, so recoil does not drive it up into your cheekbone.

gripper

Only one of the MN's that ever really beat me up that way, was the M38- amazing what a difference the weight of the bayonet and mounting hardware makes...but for me,it was more of a " really hard ,straight back " pounding... If I didn't lean into it consciously, on my skinny frame it tended to be noticeable... M44 ,not as bad.Full sized 91-30's and Finns? Barely noticeable by comparison.... Subjective, I guess.

nikto

increase a 7 lb guns' weight by 2 lbs, reduce the recoil by 28%. Gas op autos dont really reduce the recall at all, but we FEEL less cause the recoil is spread out for a few more microseconds. Shotgun recoil pad does the same thing. You are still being hit just as hard, but because your inertia is being "given" a fraction of a second longer to start moving, you "give" with the recoil a bit, enough to be noticable.

same thing when you tighten up your abs at a punch,and exhale sharply, moving gut backwards an inch or so, depends upon how fast you can move and how fast the punch is. Done right, it "robs' the punch of a lot of power. Moon hit me in the guts one time, cause I was joking with him, but a Korean guard witnessed it. I was ready and altho the blow knocked me back a few feet, losing my feet for a second, and I hit the wall in the guard shack., I was ok.

gripper

Most autos of similar caliber and weight do have less subjective recoil. Still, there's something I enjoy about going to town on the 3-400 meter berms with the irons ,a bandolier of stripper clips;and doing it with an old turnbolt workhorse. Probably the same reason the autos I favor are (comparatively) crude next to their more modern descendants and evolved contemporaries (AK's and such)- the reduced ammunition sensitivity for function and parts wear...even the Garand and the issue M14(which I like) resulted in US ammo for the military including a different(read" less hot") loading for the 30.06 to save wear & breakage on the OP rod. Likewise, the Romanian PSL could NOT run a steady diet of bullet weights heavier than the typical " Light Ball"(147-150) without modifications... Most of those old turnbolt and " KalashnCaveman" arms will chug right along.
Call it a " Workhorse vs a Racehorse " or a " Fighting Dog vs a Showdog".. Each have their places,with SOME overlap.

BigEd63

Yep my bad been a long freaking week.

gripper

No worries. I'm just sipping my Casa Viejo Tequila (Reposado) ,watching a " Person of Interest " rerun ;and waiting for the Gods and Goddesses of Scheduling to kick out some hours for next week. And considering a walk " downrange ". Been a while since I had anything approaching fun.

nikto

I've had little but fun ever since Wifey got here. :-)

gripper

Good. She sounds like she's worth keeping around. And,hopefully; you are in for the long haul. Back up the hill. You and I vet annoyed at each other on occasion, but I truly hope this is the Good Thing for you. God Bless You And Yours( for what that's worth coming from me).

nikto

thanks much. Maybe we will meet one day. Wifey wants CA, but they are just too crowded, polluted, anti gun and statist for me. Maybe OR, tho

gripper

I'm told by a friend (different branch,but we crossed paths different places overseas) that Eastern Oregon and Western Oregon have a different mindset with regards to the RKBA, and government in general.