john in ar silver bear 9x18

Terry G · 01-16-2016, 04:29 PM

Who has experience with The Privi Partisan Hollow Points in this ammunition? I still have a lot of Silver Bear HP, but it's not inexhaustible. For my Makarovs and CZ 82's. Thanks!

gripper · 01-17-2016, 11:01 AM

I like their ball ammo. I THINK they load their HP ammo a little bit faster.

nikto · 01-17-2016, 12:35 PM

save the jhp's for serious use and practice with ball. there's no difference in recoil, etc, noticible when under lethal stress.

nikto · 01-17-2016, 12:37 PM

dont believe the industry's crap about "gotta train with what u carry" that's just to rip you off. it had a bit of merit, full charge 357's vs .38 wadcutters, but jhp's vs ball, no diff at all. Once you've tested your mags, etc with jhp's, you can shoot ball forever in training and carry the jhp's.

gripper · 01-17-2016, 01:58 PM

FWIW, I believe that the 9x18 is one of those calibers that benefits more from the use of bullets heavier than the typical JHP/FMJ weights encountered,more so than whether or not a HP is used. That old Wolf load,with weights in the 100-109 grain range always worked for me. As did the Buffalo Bore/Underwood 115 grain hard cast FP...but both gun AND recoil spring weight choices are important considerations.

Terry G · 01-17-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gripper

FWIW, I believe that the 9x18 is one of those calibers that benefits more from the use of bullets heavier than the typical JHP/FMJ weights encountered,more so than whether or not a HP is used. That old Wolf load,with weights in the 100-109 grain range always worked for me. As did the Buffalo Bore/Underwood 115 grain hard cast FP...but both gun AND recoil spring weight choices are important considerations.

I had some Sliver Bear in 115 Grain but I shot it up, I'm going to try a couple boxes of this Privi Partisan (SP?) since I sometimes carry a CZ 82 for back up.

BigEd63 · 01-18-2016, 04:09 AM

Might want to see what Fiocchi makes or imports under their name.

I've bought 9x18mm FMJ from them in the past not sure about HP or SP ammo but might be worth a try.

nikto · 01-19-2016, 12:00 PM

heavier means slower and at best, with the lightest of jhp bullets and heaviest of loads, the mak is barely capable of expanding a jhp in flesh. need 1300 fps to count on it, in .36 bore. I dont trust 115 jhp's to expand in 9mm, unless 5" and plus P. that's why I favor the Cor BOn 100 gr load, 1300+ fps in 3" barrel. IF I bothered with factory ammo at all, that is, which I would not. For me, 45 gr Split Nose at 2200 fps, 500 ft lbs. WAY better, as proven on critters.

gripper · 01-19-2016, 12:27 PM

In a properly resprung Makarov or CZ82, the 95-115 grainers can-and have been according to my friend's chrony- pushed above 1050-1100 FPS(Buffalo Bore)... Not NATO spec 124 grainers,but not too shabby.

01-16-2016, 04:29 PM	#1
Terry G Registered User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,095	9x18 MM Ammo Who has experience with The Privi Partisan Hollow Points in this ammunition? I still have a lot of Silver Bear HP, but it's not inexhaustible. For my Makarovs and CZ 82's. Thanks! Attached Thumbnails

01-19-2016, 12:00 PM	#8
nikto Registered User Joined: May 2014 From: USA Posts: 3,050	heavier means slower and at best, with the lightest of jhp bullets and heaviest of loads, the mak is barely capable of expanding a jhp in flesh. need 1300 fps to count on it, in .36 bore. I dont trust 115 jhp's to expand in 9mm, unless 5" and plus P. that's why I favor the Cor BOn 100 gr load, 1300+ fps in 3" barrel. IF I bothered with factory ammo at all, that is, which I would not. For me, 45 gr Split Nose at 2200 fps, 500 ft lbs. WAY better, as proven on critters. Last edited by nikto; 01-19-2016 at 12:02 PM.

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01-17-2016, 11:01 AM	#2
gripper Registered User Joined: Oct 2003 From: nashua nh Posts: 2,680	I like their ball ammo. I THINK they load their HP ammo a little bit faster.

01-17-2016, 12:35 PM	#3
nikto Registered User Joined: May 2014 From: USA Posts: 3,050	save the jhp's for serious use and practice with ball. there's no difference in recoil, etc, noticible when under lethal stress.

01-17-2016, 12:37 PM	#4
nikto Registered User Joined: May 2014 From: USA Posts: 3,050	dont believe the industry's crap about "gotta train with what u carry" that's just to rip you off. it had a bit of merit, full charge 357's vs .38 wadcutters, but jhp's vs ball, no diff at all. Once you've tested your mags, etc with jhp's, you can shoot ball forever in training and carry the jhp's.

01-17-2016, 01:58 PM	#5
gripper Registered User Joined: Oct 2003 From: nashua nh Posts: 2,680	FWIW, I believe that the 9x18 is one of those calibers that benefits more from the use of bullets heavier than the typical JHP/FMJ weights encountered,more so than whether or not a HP is used. That old Wolf load,with weights in the 100-109 grain range always worked for me. As did the Buffalo Bore/Underwood 115 grain hard cast FP...but both gun AND recoil spring weight choices are important considerations.

01-18-2016, 04:09 AM	#7
BigEd63 Registered User Joined: Dec 2004 From: Arkansas Posts: 4,130	Might want to see what Fiocchi makes or imports under their name. I've bought 9x18mm FMJ from them in the past not sure about HP or SP ammo but might be worth a try.

01-19-2016, 12:27 PM	#9
gripper Registered User Joined: Oct 2003 From: nashua nh Posts: 2,680	In a properly resprung Makarov or CZ82, the 95-115 grainers can-and have been according to my friend's chrony- pushed above 1050-1100 FPS(Buffalo Bore)... Not NATO spec 124 grainers,but not too shabby.

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