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Old 09-21-2016, 04:10 PM   #1
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.50 Hawken Replica

I'm trying to work up a Deer load for my replica. Anybody here have suggestions? It's been several years and I'm sure there's a better load than the 70 gr. FFG and patched ball I used.
 
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:13 PM   #2
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Do you know the twist rate? If it's intended for use with a round ball, the twist rate may be too slow to use much of anything else. If it DOESN'T work well with a round ball, that may be good news; it may be that the twist rate is faster and appropriate for maxi-balls or saboteurs bullets.

{edit - I assume you mean patched round ball, but you know what they say about assumptions...}

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Old 09-22-2016, 07:35 AM   #3
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No, I don't know the rate of twist to the rifling. I shoot it with round, patched balls. 70 Gr. FFg. Spot on for accuracy at 100 yards. I have maxi-balls with a plastic type cup to be loaded over the powder, but haven't tried them yet.
 
 
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No, I don't know the rate of twist to the rifling. I shoot it with round, patched balls. 70 Gr. FFg. Spot on for accuracy at 100 yards. I have maxi-balls with a plastic type cup to be loaded over the powder, but haven't tried them yet.
Do you mind sharing the make & model?
 
Old 09-22-2016, 07:46 AM   #5
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It's an Armsport .50 Hawken. I've had it like, forever. I've got some running around to do. I'll post a picture this P.M. Thanks.
 
Old 09-22-2016, 10:03 AM   #6
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:43 AM   #7
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Out of boredom last night I searched the net some, and from what I found it looks like the armsport hawken has a 1:28 twist, which is VERY fast for a muzzle-loader. It's been 20 years or so since I sold my last muzzle loader, but iirc, most round-ball oriented guns use something like a 1:66, and more modern-oriented ones use a 1:38 or so. (At least back then, and assuming I'm remembering correctly.)

If it were me, I'd run a tight patch or cleaning brush thru it on a cleaning rod or the ramrod, and determine by the rod's rotation how fast the twist really is. If it actually is 1:28 (or even 1:38), you could probably use most any projectile you want.

There's probably some good blackpowder forums with lots of load ideas. There seems to be forums for pretty much everything nowadays - I'm a member of gun forums, a couple watch forums, an aquaponics forum and even a tractor forum. Lot of info available out there for free nowadays, as long as you filter it carefully.
 
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