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Old 03-31-2016, 03:02 PM   #1
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wanna experiment with longer tyvek bag

and with another SOL bivvy around the main SOL. the outside one to not have the hood, but to definitely have the velcro seams. then it can be opened flat and used to face a reflector "wall" of sticks, on the far side of the fire. this lets the fire be smaller and more distant from me and my "leanto" of tyvek (faced with clear plastic, ala Korchanki's "super shelter" idea.

given a 6 ft long tyvek bag, and the other tyvek being 5 ft long, i can curl up inside of the long one, cover my upper body with the shorter one, and use both SOL bivvies (one inside of the other) inside of the 2 tyvek bags, with debris between all layers and also between my longjohns and normal clothing. If it's cold when shtf, I'll normally have a coat, too. If there's some time before cold weather, there will be dead bodies to take clothing from. there's some at the BOL, too, so not to worry.

Since the bivvies and tyvek bags have velcro seams, all can be opened up and used as tarps, rain catches, wind and sun deflectors. wtf you gonna do with a sleeping bag in hot weather? :-)

I see these guy's setups that look all nice, IF you dont toss and turn ANY, but if you DO, all that setup ends up beside you, with you lying on cold, wet ground. eff that! I want it around me, and no place else for it to go. When you add in the psyche stress of the (likely) horrors of shtf, dysentery (also likely) food you aint used to, water that maybe has a "few drops" of untreated "slips" , etc, that means cramps and not good sleep.

I wanted 4 season protection, 110F down to arctic conditions and I believe that I've achieved it. Guess I wont know until next xmas, tho. Unless i find somebody with an unused walk in freezer that I can rent for a night or a day. which might happen. I'd never live where it gets over 95F or under 0F, anyway. :-) to hell with that stuff, when you can avoid it simply by moving 2x per year. Within 2 years, all of my income will be portable, won't matter where i live. So why suffer from cold or heat.?

given that nearly everything is in storage, and only empty 55 gal drums need to be buried, the shtf stuff can be moved 2x per year, too. aint that much of it needed, actually.

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Old 03-31-2016, 03:16 PM   #2
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and with another SOL bivvy around the main SOL. the outside one to not have the hood, but to definitely have the velcro seams. then it can be opened flat and used to face a reflector "wall" of sticks, on the far side of the fire. this lets the fire be smaller and more distant from me and my "leanto" of tyvek (faced with clear plastic, ala Korchanki's "super shelter" idea.

given a 6 ft long tyvek bag, and the other tyvek being 5 ft long, i can curl up inside of the long one, cover my upper body with the shorter one, and use both SOL bivvies (one inside of the other) inside of the 2 tyvek bags, with debris between all layers and also between my longjohns and normal clothing. If it's cold when shtf, I'll normally have a coat, too. If there's some time before cold weather, there will be dead bodies to take clothing from. there's some at the BOL, too, so not to worry.

Since the bivvies and tyvek bags have velcro seams, all can be opened up and used as tarps, rain catches, wind and sun deflectors. wtf you gonna do with a sleeping bag in hot weather? :-)

I see these guy's setups that look all nice, IF you dont toss and turn ANY, but if you DO, all that setup ends up beside you, with you lying on cold, wet ground. eff that! I want it around me, and no place else for it to go. When you add in the psyche stress of the (likely) horrors of shtf, dysentery (also likely) food you aint used to, water that maybe has a "few drops" of untreated "slips" , etc, that means cramps and not good sleep.

I wanted 4 season protection, 110F down to arctic conditions and I believe that I've achieved it. Guess I wont know until next xmas, tho. Unless i find somebody with an unused walk in freezer that I can rent for a night or a day. which might happen
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