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Old 12-04-2006, 12:45 PM   #61
 
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The "ANALOGY" was an attempt to get someone with **** for brains to understand a simple concept.

Apparently it did not work.
 
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:12 PM   #62
 
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Originally Posted by Cornbread2
The "ANALOGY" was an attempt to get someone with **** for brains to understand a simple concept.

Apparently it did not work.
LISTEN 'FRIEND' 'a simple concept',,will get crushed under the wieght of 'a
simple logic' ANYDAY! [a loggerhead fer' you to ponder/study upon ]

now ,'YOU' showed up to the 'game' with your saddle-bags loaded plumb-full of emotion,,,and a HUGE-HEAD -O-EGO!!![PAL]

while,I merely took the other-end of the stick YOU were thrashing about !
and thumped you with it on a PRO/CON,,,,POINT/COUNTER-POINT SORT OF WAY!,,,,well, this will NOT SUFFICE IN THE LAND/WORLD of the "corn-poneII"

AND ,SO BE IT.

for I have grown weary of YOUR 12 YEAR-OLD ANTICS,ATTITUDE,SECRET-SQUIRREL-HURLS !!! and when YOU 'achieve manhood',,,,well-hell, there's
ALWAYS A "uncle-brass" to be thankful for!!![I.E. render tribute}

pal.


 
Old 12-11-2006, 09:12 AM   #63
 
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LISTEN 'FRIEND' 'a simple concept',,will get crushed under the wieght of 'a
simple logic
Simple logic tells me that since the muzzleloading seasons were started by buckskinners and traditional muzzleloader shooters because they wanted to have a season away from modern gun hunters then modern gun hunters should stay the hell out of THEIR season.

That is simple LOGIC.
 
 
Old 12-11-2006, 09:18 PM   #64
 
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Simple logic tells me that since the muzzleloading seasons were started by buckskinners and traditional muzzleloader shooters because they wanted to have a season away from modern gun hunters then modern gun hunters should stay the hell out of THEIR season.

That is simple LOGIC.

ok.,ok.ok.!,,,as yer' "reverberations/reply"
on my posts 'screams-volumes ABOUT YOURSELF!,,,'you' WIN, 'sports-boy'!!!

although!, the funniest part of this 'little fandango/dance',,is,,,,,I DON'T OWN A MUZZLE-LOADER/INTEND TO EVEN HUNT IN THAT SEASON MYSELF!!!,,,,{ }


 
Old 12-12-2006, 04:27 AM   #65
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Quote:
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Simple logic tells me that since the muzzleloading seasons were started by buckskinners and traditional muzzleloader shooters because they wanted to have a season away from modern gun hunters then modern gun hunters should stay the hell out of THEIR season.

That is simple LOGIC.
Ther's an even simpler Logic...Hunt your way, and STFU and let everyone else hunt THEIRS...who the hell made YOU the Black-Powder Nazi anyway??? Considering there's a hell of a lot more deer out there than can be harvested either way, shut up, go hunting, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
 
Old 12-12-2006, 07:13 AM   #66
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Crud. I vote for a 105mm howitzer season.

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Old 12-12-2006, 10:33 AM   #67
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Only modern man can have this fight

 
Old 01-02-2007, 03:33 PM   #68
 
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Considering there's a hell of a lot more deer out there than can be harvested either way, shut up, go hunting, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
That is hard to do since the woods is full of morons with inline rifles shooting at everything that moves.

Before you idiots came along the muzzleloading season was a nice time to hunt.
 
Old 01-02-2007, 08:26 PM   #69
 
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I take no issue with any type of gun, but the one I can say I will never buy is an In-line muzzle loader.
 
Old 01-03-2007, 06:49 AM   #70
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I take no issue with any type of gun, but the one I can say I will never buy is an In-line muzzle loader.
Me either.

I just don't see the attraction. Why would I want a muzzleloader that looks exactly like my Rem M700? If I did I'd just as soon take my Remington into the woods with me. Hell, I'll load it one round at a time and call myself a breechloader hunter. I'll even pat myself on the back for taking the handicap.

Some guys just want to hunt, but that's what all the other seasons are for. I don't know about other states but there are 3 weeks of regular rifle season in WV. Muzzy season is the very last one (week 4). If you can't kill a deer the first 3 weeks then what are the odds you'll get one in the 4th no matter what you are carrying?

If you really need a deer? Get your .22 mag and go feed the family. No one is going to hold it against you.

Both of the guys I hunt with have inlines. I make fun of them all the time.....and vice versa. My real beef with inlines is this;

Mr. Knight developed a product and markets it by trying to convince hunters that they need one to hunt effectively. It's pure marketing bull****. Gun magazines like them because it's big money in advertising. Gun companies like them because it's a new source of revenue. Hunters like them because it's a familiar platform.

150 grain charges? Big deal........I've knocked down every deer I've ever hit with a .54 caliber roundball and an 80 grain charge. Synthetic powder manufacturers prefer you load heavy though!

200 yard shots? Well, out west that may be an advantage but here in the east it's just silly. I've yet to see a deer taken around here during musket season that was over 100 yards.

Surefire ignition? Learn your weapon. I had zero misfires from my flintlock this year. I remind my friends that as far as reliablity goes....we're running neck and neck.

Ability to scope? Friend, if you aren't near blind and you are scoping your muzzleloader thennothing I say about it is going to sway you. Go get that 30-30 and have at it.

I know a lot of the guys who pushed for a black powder season around here. Inlines weren't what they had in mind. Still, this is where we are today.

What burns my ass the most is that there is actually a movement afoot to ban traditional rifles from the field. I believe it was started in Montanna. The means to this? Minimum muzzle energy levels. It would take just about every traditional rifle out of the woods. Let's face it, 150 grains and a sabot bullet produce a lot more than half that charge and a roundball.

Another way to force the rest of us to buy into Mr. Knights product.

I told you fella's that he was a marketing genius.

Oh, btw.......the first inline was a flintlock. Just so you know.
 
Old 01-03-2007, 11:24 AM   #71
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I take no issue with any type of gun, but the one I can say I will never buy is an In-line muzzle loader.
Thats my thoughts too. Even though I do see cornbreads point......
 
Old 01-03-2007, 03:40 PM   #72
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Why not, where feasible have an all inclusive "primitive" hunting season? No inlines and no compound bows, only what I'd call "nekkid bows"(no sightpins or other new fangled devices) with the most modern bow types being recurve ones. No polymere stocks or bow limbs. And if it'a a cross bow it better look like something from the middle ages instead of Star Wars.

All this talk has got me thinking of once I get a few more moderm pieces I may go and get a few flint locks, like a couple of rifles and pistols.

Also since we got wild hogs around one of those Cold Steel Boar Spears would be fun.
 
Old 01-03-2007, 03:50 PM   #73
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Also since we got wild hogs around one of those Cold Steel Boar Spears would be fun.
It takes big cajones to go after a boar with a spear. Handgun is close as I'd come to kill one of those critters.

For the BP guns I have a Lyman Hawken and a Ruger OM and an el cheapo .36 C&B. Great fun and reliable.

"Strong and free; no inline for me"

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Old 01-04-2007, 10:17 AM   #74
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It's gonna be fun trying though.

I'll have to get 2 of those one for practice and the other for the hunt.
 
Old 01-10-2007, 07:25 PM   #75
 
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[embargo,,,LIFTERD.]

I'll admit, this was a pretty fun thread/imput B.S. session

flinter posted some 'pics' on a couple of his 'flinch-locks' awhile back
and they are some real 'sweeties',,,the other a day I was 'rumingin' around in my powder stocks and counted 6 cans of B.P. and i've only got [2] .36 cap-n-ball revolvers,,,and that .44 revolving carbine that i've only shot [1] cylinder
through it since i've bought it.[I REALLY NEED TO DO MY PART IN THIS GLOBAL-WARMING 'trend' AND SHOOT MORE 'LOOSE-POWDER']

 
Old 01-11-2007, 08:14 PM   #76
 
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I started hunting with a traditional muzzleloader when my wife got me a kit years ago. i built it and found that it shot offhand really well- fine balance. i mounted a large ring peep as the rear sight. it has a wonderful set trigger.
wyoming has no separate muzzleloader elk seasons, but I enjoy using it anyway. I often hunt the close black timber and feel no disadvantage during gun season with it- I've killed three elk with it. I usually take elk with a bow, and the muzzleloader actually offers considerable advantage in range, and in that you don't need to move as much to shoot.
wyoming has some muzzleloading areas for antelope, and I've enjoyed this rifle there. again, I've taken antelope with a bow, so the challenge is similar.
I don't think I'd ever get an inline- I just wouldn't enjoy walking through the woods with it as much.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 07:05 PM   #77
 
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Thumbs up

thanks. 'bob' for sharing this wonderful picture in my own 'minds-eye'
as I for one, am GLAD you decided to share with this forum.

[p.s. and this will be/should be my last imput on this THREAD!
"I'D LOVE TO LAY MY HANDS UPON THE MUZZLE-LOADER THAT THE N.R.A. PRESENTED TO A "rush limbaugh" a FEW YEARS BACK!!!,,,just for 5 minutes.]
 
Old 01-14-2007, 02:32 AM   #78
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"I'D LOVE TO LAY MY HANDS UPON THE MUZZLE-LOADER THAT THE N.R.A. PRESENTED TO A "rush limbaugh" a FEW YEARS BACK!!!,,,just for 5 minutes.]
Cecil Brooks made all the NRA guns. He was one hell of a gunbuilder.

Unfortunately, he died last year.
 
Old 01-16-2007, 07:16 PM   #79
 
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I'M SORRY TO HAVE LEARNED THAT SAD NEWS![I've rediscovered my complete "hard-bound" N.R.A. issues of 1971{the centennial issue is first/foremost},,,but back in the day the printed work/words were for a "CAN-DO" AMERICAN SHOOTER/black-powder HEAVY articles]

and so it seems,,, TIS' NOT THE LAST OF THE BRASS'S-ASS!!!,,,ON THIS THREAD!
 
Old 01-16-2007, 07:33 PM   #80
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Just today I was eyein' a TC Renegade at my fav shop that had been fitted with a .50cal Green Mt?(IIRC) barrel, barrel condition new.

Asking price I think was $150, to high? or a good deal? What say ye?
 
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