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Old 10-29-2006, 12:38 PM   #21
 
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Originally Posted by Flinter

Bowhunters are about to start realizing the same thing as more and more states allow crossbows. I'd almost feel bad for them if a lot of them werent' the same guys who use inlines in muzzleloader season.
I never gave that any thought before but I guess you are right.

A bow hunter has to spend a lot of time learning to master the bow. That keeps the lazy slob hunters out of the woods during bow season.

It is the same way with muzzleloaders. Those who do not wish to learn real shooting and hunting skills use modern guns in the muzzleloading season because they are too lazy or stupid to learn such skills.
 
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:30 PM   #22
 
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Originally Posted by Cornbread2

I can go out tonight with my .22 and kill more deer than I can haul in my truck.

And if he needs meat and wants to hunt legally he still has the modern gun season to do so.

LUCKY-YOU!!!,,,but stop to THINK as to the WHY for more seasons/extended
huntin'

I'M THINKIN' THAT"I can go out tonight with my 'xyz' and kill more deer than I kin' haul in my FORD" SCREAMS VOLUMES as to the growing OVER-POPULATION of deer herds[east of me,anyway],,,and as to the WHY on the implementation of more 'modern' tools!

[I KIN' debate,with-you, my BROTHER ]
 
Old 10-29-2006, 02:41 PM   #23
 
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Lets say that a group of Corvette owners got together and spent a lot of time and money to rent a piece of land to have a Corvette owners get together and cook out.

You come by in your Toyota Camry and since you can say your Toyota is also a car then you should be able to get into their cook out for free.


They are not going to see it that way. You don't own a Corvette. You did not pay your dues to the club. You just want to enjoy the benefits of the Corvette club without adding anything to the club.

You could even try to alter your Toyota so it looks like a Corvette so you can sneak in.

Either way you are cheating and you are not wanted in the Corvette club and you KNOW they are right.

So you can start your own Toyota club and your members can pay their dues and have your own damn cook out.

It is the same thing with the modern muzzleloader hunters. They can stay out of our season and they can lobby the law makers and get their own season.
 
 
Old 10-29-2006, 06:29 PM   #24
 
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The second to the last year I hunted I was going up this hill when I heard shot fired, then another, and just as I got over the hill I watched him shoot a third time across a canyon at a buck. He was shooting the modern inline, a spendy one and the bullet dropped way short. I am not bragging only telling my opinion, I asked if he wanted me to take a shot, he laughed at my longer than normal Hawkin, I split the deer with him. I kept the rack. Its in my garage.
I will confess there was a little luck, not a lot.
I will also confess the day before I missed a shot as I a wet load.
 
Old 10-30-2006, 08:16 AM   #25
 
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The fact of the matter is if you know how to shoot and know how to use a real muzzloader you can get your deer.

Or you can rely on technology to get your deer. Technology is fine for the modern gun season. It has no place in the muzzleloading season.
 
Old 10-30-2006, 09:21 AM   #26
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Yep, the whole real point of it has been lost.
 
Old 10-30-2006, 09:02 PM   #27
 
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Originally Posted by Cornbread2
Lets say that a group of Corvette owners got together and spent a lot of time and money to rent a piece of land to have a Corvette owners get together and cook out.

You come by in your Toyota Camry and since you can say your Toyota is also a car then you should be able to get into their cook out for free.


They are not going to see it that way. You don't own a Corvette. You did not pay your dues to the club. You just want to enjoy the benefits of the Corvette club without adding anything to the club.

You could even try to alter your Toyota so it looks like a Corvette so you can sneak in.

Either way you are cheating and you are not wanted in the Corvette club and you KNOW they are right.

So you can start your own Toyota club and your members can pay their dues and have your own damn cook out.

It is the same thing with the modern muzzleloader hunters. They can stay out of our season and they can lobby the law makers and get their own season.


dude/friend???,,,PLEASE, GIT' A ****IN'-LIFE!
BEFORE THE 'circle-of-life',,ROLLS PAST YER'-ASS.
 
Old 10-31-2006, 06:09 AM   #28
 
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Brass hammer. I really believe you have a serious mental problem.
 
Old 11-01-2006, 03:16 PM   #29
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Traditional, because that's the way it should be. If I wanted to shoot a deer at 200 yards I'd use a center fire rifle.
 
Old 11-01-2006, 09:01 PM   #30
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I say if you want real primative you ought to jump onto the deer's back out of a tree. Grab it by the antlers and snap it's neck like a twig.
 
Old 11-02-2006, 06:37 PM   #31
 
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Brass hammer. I really believe you have a serious mental problem.

it's funny that a few simple words in reply to a analogy
from a somewhat civil meaningful debate/discussion[i.e. 'your utter/complete deviation' ] could invoke your question concerning my mental stability!

although, 'your simple reply' sheds GREAT-LIGHT!!!,,,,!, upon your own 'mental-make-up' PAL!

[hold-on, I'LL PULL YOU BACK TO THE SHALLOW-END OF THE LAKE,[i.e.]
I AIN'T MAD AT YOU.]


 
Old 11-03-2006, 03:26 PM   #32
 
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How was that an off topic analogy?

The buckskinners and traditional muzzle loader shooters spent their time and money getting the season for themselves away from hunters USING MODERN GUNS.

Or if you fail to understand the above I will type slowly so you can understand.

The people that got the season in place did not WANT YOU AND YOUR MODERN GUNS IN THEIR SEASON. That was the whole point of what they did.

The modern gun hunters saw the buck skinners had a separate season and they wanted to hunt also. That would be fine IF they used traditional guns. That is exactly what the season is about.

But many of these hunters are either too stupid or too damn lazy or both to learn to shoot a real muzzloader so they want to bring their modern guns into this season.

The analogy of the Corvette club fits exactly. But one has to have the mental capacity over that of a single cell organism to understand the analogy.
 
Old 11-03-2006, 03:29 PM   #33
 
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Traditional, because that's the way it should be. If I wanted to shoot a deer at 200 yards I'd use a center fire rifle.
Muzzleloading hunting requires skills that modern gun hunting does not require.

It is not so hard to pop a deer at 300 yards with your new short magnum caliber rifle with a scope while sitting in nice warn truck.
 
Old 11-04-2006, 12:06 AM   #34
 
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look, "friend"![is this corn-pone #1, or #2,?],,,as the cars in your replys/are a stupid 'RETORT',,, why not try this [drizzily-concept]

fer'instance, ,,,'a half a dozen ol' 'bradford-white' #30 gal WATER-HEATERS
WERE SETTIN' AROUND 'suckin'-up THIER 'SOLE-GLORY' in the life of thier existance!!!,,, when ,,,all of a sudden,, this UP-START WHIPPER-SNAPPER!!!

by the name of "RINNANI", shows up with thier 'CONNTINUUM, MODEL#2020!
,,,TANKLESS GAS WATER-HEATER!!! SLAPS YOU IN THE [albeit]UGLY MUG

and I am not mad at you for being the person that you are![****-fer-brains]
in fact [stuipd ****-fer-brains that you and yer' conjoined retarded alter-ego is] i'd love nothing better than to MEET YOU IN THE WOODS DURING 'a' HUNT!
signed,
RESPECTFULLY, the MAN that can teach/train YER'-ASS,!
UNCLE-BRASS.

 
Old 11-12-2006, 07:20 PM   #35
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Cornbread, I don't believe you realise what I was trying to state. During muzzleloader season i use a traditional frontstuffer. Inlines are no different than centerfire rifles in that you can shot game out to 250 yds. As I stated earlier If I wanted to shot a deer at more than 75 yds. I would use my .243 or .308
 
Old 11-14-2006, 02:47 PM   #36
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i guess when big ed hunts primitive he means primitive.
t davies you appear to be an man of honor and i must agree with you, but i can hit a deer or something larger at 100 to 125 yrds with my front stuffer. people that use inlines are the same people that will use a crossbow during bow season just because thay can. oh and that way they don't have to learn how to hunt just shoot.
 
Old 11-14-2006, 04:34 PM   #37
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Oh well. I stalk the animals in their own environment, and shoot them with a traditional cap and ball Hawken rifle. Its my choice and it works for me. Different strokes for different folks.

RIKA



 
Old 11-14-2006, 05:07 PM   #38
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Damn Match Lock Hunters

Real men hunt in loin cloth...........With a Spear! Flint or percussion? You decide...
 
Old 11-14-2006, 08:54 PM   #39
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It's been quite a few years since I last got out for the Muzzle-loading season, so I haven't paid any attention to whether or not the rules for ML season have changed since then in my state. However, when I last hunted the ML season, my state required traditional flintlock or percussion, ignition system completely exposed to the elements, and iron sights. And, this is the way it should be, IMO. I personally used a T/C Renegade .54 cal, which is a Hawken type design, with a 430gr maxi-ball, since we had deer, elk, and black bear open here. My only concession to the original system was a peep sight, as my eyes had gotten to old to see open sights on a rifle.
Personally, I think a scope sighted inline muzzle-loader is just fine for general deer or elk season, but it completely defeats the purpose of the special muzzle-loading season.
Best regards, BIGBORE
 
Old 11-14-2006, 09:49 PM   #40
 
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hey.gang/gaggle!,,,I'VE talked on the 'phone' with my 'little-brother'[i.e. 6'1"-250, +4lbs with a BONER! ] and the feed-back is,,,[he works with the 'winkies'/AMISH FER' YOu P.C. TYPES],,,THEY ALL HUNT "SCOPED IN-LINE"
MUZZLE-LOADERS!!!{SLAM!!!!!!, ON thet 'traditional ****']


 
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