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Old 03-07-2008, 08:56 AM   #1
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Butt pack set ups...

Way, way, way back, maybe 25 years ago, I had a butt pack kit fully set up. Starting with the normal 782 or ALICE gear which included your Y or H harness, web belt, compass pouch, 1st Aid Compress pouch (Marine box in my case, early on), Canteen pouches, with two canteens, canteen cup, magazine pouches, Ka Bar, US Airforce Survival Knife or M7 bayonet, and butt pack.

Gloves, black with green wool liners hung off a carabiner. A poncho and sometimes poncho liner hung off the butt pack, sleep shirt, extra socks, can of chili, vienna sausages, and granola bars in the butt pack, and a bunch of fire starting stuff, wire saw, and somewhere a folding knife pretty much completed the kit.

Ever have one of these set ups?

One irony is now that I have the money and ability to make the perfect kit and update it, and make it in black, woodland, Olive Drab, ACU, whatever, I don't need them, but they were good to have...so I have the components and for the heck of it, set them up for my sons and whoever needs them.

Old enough to remember these?
 
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:13 AM   #2
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Hell, I still use something very similar.
 
Old 03-07-2008, 09:19 AM   #3
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I've used the ols style ones and the Enchanced or MOLLE ones about the same way.

I've always liked the H-harness over the Y ones though. Because you get the option of more attachemnt point if you rig it right for a 2nd butt back or a sleeping bag.
 
 
Old 03-07-2008, 11:20 AM   #4
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I have a butt pack set up similarly with the H harness.

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Old 03-07-2008, 01:13 PM   #5
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Canadian 82 Pattern Web Gear (left to right)

1) Pistol Mag Pouch (2 mags)

2) Rifle Mag Pouch (2 mags)

3) Gas Mask Carrier (contains) C4 mask
(side pouch) 2x decontamination mitts CW
2 pkg Detector Chemical Agent
2 pkg Paper Chemical Agent Detector
5.56mm Cleaning rod and brush
shaving brush
36x 6" pipe cleaners
small pair of needle nose pliers

4) 1 Quart canteen w/ cover & cup (cup for boiling water)

5) Buttpack (24 hours)
- 1 pr wool socks in zip lock bag
- 120 ml bottle of SPF 30 sun block
- 50 mg Bottle of foot powder
-1/2 roll of charmin in zip lock bag
-1 survival fishing kit
-1 wire saw
-2 rolls snare wire
-1 Hexamine solid fuel cooker
-1 toothbrush
-3 oz hair shampoo
-1 spare rubber air mattress plug
-1 comb
-50 yds dental floss
-1 chap stick
-12 electoplast band aids
-1 olive drab hand towel
-2 arctic candles
-1 range card w/ sentry orders on back
-1 small bar of soap
-1 cntr Tylenol caplets
-12 aspirin
-1x50 ml bottle bug juice w/ deet
-10' paracord
-2x patches for rubber air mattress
-1 Sewing kit
-1 Tube camouflage face paint
-1 pair ear plugs
-1 box waterproof matches
-1 P-38 can opener
- 10 Imodium Tablets
-1 serving Mountain House Lasagne
-1 Plastic food container 8"x5"x2"
- 1x46gm bag of plain rice
- 2x 45 gm bag instant potatoes
-2x 50 gm Blueberry apple cereal
-4x 4 gm pkg coffee mate
-2x 28 gm pkg Hot Chocolate
-3x pkg pepper
-4x pkg salt
-1 small plastic spoon
-1x book matches
-1x 6 gm pkg lifesavers
-4 pkg Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-8 Butterscotch Hard Candies

6) Carrier Pouch: Gortex Rain Jacket

7) Pouch containing KFS & pocket knife (18" para cord attaches knife to webbing)

8) 1 Qt canteen, carrier & cup(cup for washing)

9) Mag pouch x2 Rifle

10) Compass w/ silva compass

11) Harness- 2x Field Bandages
- 2x Carabineers
-1x Plastic Charger for 5.56mm Stripper Clips


Patrol Pack (Woods Mountaineer, approx 2,300 cu in) (3-4 days)

1) Ranger Blanket

2) Combat sweater

3) Fleece Jacket

4) Field Message Pad w/ protractor
- 2 Range Cards
- Aide Memoire Battlefield First Aid
- 2 Pens
- pencil
- 2 highlighters

5) Neoprene/Nylon/Fleece gloves

6)6x single meal packs in quart sized zip lock freezer bags, each contains
-1x50 g bag Instant flavoured oatmeal
-1x45g bag Instant Mashed Potatoes
-2x4g envelopes Coffee mate
-3x envelopes salt
-3x envelopes pepper
-2x envelopes Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-2x envelopes tea
-1x envelope fruit beverage powder
-1x43g tube of honey or 1x34 g tube of peanut butter
-1x pack flavoured gum
-1x pack 10 hard candies (Werthers Butterscotch)
-1x envelope Hot Chocolate
-1x 28g package beef jerky
-1x Package Cup a Soup
-1x Book of Matches

7) 8x35 binoculars

8) 4 local topo maps, 1 provincial grid map, 1 provincial highway maps

9) Rifle Cleaning kit

10) 50' Para Cord

11) 1 roll charmin in zip lock bag

12) Odds & Ends Bag- 3x Tube Cam Cream Black
(ziplock bag) Brown
Green
- NVG Green Finger light
- Sewing Kit
- Bug Juice
- Water Purification Tablets
-Waterproof Matches
-Kleenex
- Book: Platoon Commanders Aide Memoire
- P-38 Can opener
- 2 packages Fuel Tabs

Rucksack (Dana Classic Bombpack, 3,200 cu in) (10+ days)

1) Sleeping Bag
(complete includes inner, outer, flannelette liner, air mattress, sheet utility, bivy bag)
2) toque
3) combat shirt
4) combat trousers (lightweight)
5) combat sweater
6) Leather combat gloves with wool liner
7) undershirts x2
8) underwearx2
9) socks greyx2pr
10) spare boot laces
11) boot silicone (DOUBLE zip locked bagged)
12) Forest green Aladdin coffee cup w/ lid
13) 1/2 Roll of Charmin (zip lock bag)
14) olive drab fleece jacket
15) Rain suit pants
16) 8x single meal packs in quart sized zip lock freezer bags, each contains
-1x50 g bag Instant flavoured oatmeal
-1x45g bag Instant Mashed Potatoes
-2x4g envelopes Coffee mate
-3x envelopes salt
-3x envelopes pepper
-2x envelopes Bovril Beef Bouillon Mix
-2x envelopes tea
-1x envelope fruit beverage powder
-1x43g tube of honey or 1x34 g tube of peanut butter
-1x pack flavoured gum
-1x pack 10 hard candies (Werthers Butterscotch)
-1x envelope Hot Chocolate
-1x Book of Matches
17) 2x 1 Quart canteen w/ cover and cup
18) Gerber Mk II Survival Knife
19) Small First Aid kit
- 2x Small Bars of Soap
- Triangular Bandage
- First Aid Tape
- Polysporin
- 12 Electoplast Band-Aids
- 2x Lip Balm
- Dental Floss
- 6 Pr Latex Gloves
- 5 Ammonia Inhalants
- 1 Army Field Bandage

Note: This is only a 3 season kit;

- I have rifle magazine pouches for double mags in 7.62mm NATO (currently on webbing), double mag pouches in 5.56mm, & 2 double en bloc clip pouches for the M1 Garand changing them to suit the appropriate rifle is less than 10 minutes work;
-the 2 double “en bloc” pouches can also hold 40 rds of .303 on stripper clips;
-additional "en block" clips (5) or .303 stripper clips (10) would be carried in British
5.56mm bandoleers, nylon with a closable snap;
- For the M1A, a Blackhawk 2 Mag thigh pouch is available;
- For the AR 15A2, a Blackhawk 3 mag thigh pouch is available
- Holster used is the US M7 holster in which I carried a handgun on duty while in the Military while overseas and in the field.
- On my pants belt is located my Gerber Multi Tool and Mini Mag w/ assorted filters.
- Weight: webbing - 20 lbs
Ruck - 34 lbs
Patrol Pack- 18 lbs
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:37 PM   #6
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Canadian 82 Pattern Web Gear (left to right)
- Weight: webbing - 20 lbs
Ruck - 34 lbs
Patrol Pack- 18 lbs

My hat is off to you, Garand.
Way to go.

 
Old 03-14-2008, 08:36 AM   #7
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Nice info Garand.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 06:48 AM   #8
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Way, way, way back, maybe 25 years ago, I had a butt pack kit fully set up. Starting with the normal 782 or ALICE gear which included your Y or H harness, web belt, compass pouch, 1st Aid Compress pouch (Marine box in my case, early on), Canteen pouches, with two canteens, canteen cup, magazine pouches, Ka Bar, US Airforce Survival Knife or M7 bayonet, and butt pack.

Gloves, black with green wool liners hung off a carabiner. A poncho and sometimes poncho liner hung off the butt pack, sleep shirt, extra socks, can of chili, vienna sausages, and granola bars in the butt pack, and a bunch of fire starting stuff, wire saw, and somewhere a folding knife pretty much completed the kit.

Ever have one of these set ups?

One irony is now that I have the money and ability to make the perfect kit and update it, and make it in black, woodland, Olive Drab, ACU, whatever, I don't need them, but they were good to have...so I have the components and for the heck of it, set them up for my sons and whoever needs them.

Old enough to remember these?
Started my military career in the end of the 80s when all of this stuff was still current issue and you could buy the same stuff in the surplus stores for dimes. So I had a field set of gear and an inspection set that lived in my locker. When the Army went digital and we got the new stuff that you couldn't buy spares of without shelling out a lot of dough for, the old inspection set came home to live with me and I turned in the beat up field set.
I've been out for a few years bow and I guess after ten years the ACU pattern stuff is pretty cheap on the surplus market for guys who might want a second set for inspections like I used to do.

My old woodland LBE stuff is still packed and ready to go as part of any bug out scenario, along with a couple of duffels worth of other gear that's pre-loaded and ready to be tossed in the car if I have to do a hasty evacuation for whatever reason ( thinking here of those folks in Canada who had to do a hasty evacuation and wound up taking weird stuff with them because they only had minutes to pick and choose what to take )
 
Old 10-22-2016, 06:51 AM   #9
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the ability to take down the rifle and conceal it is a big deal, so a big pack has to be part of any BOB kit.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 08:06 AM   #10
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the ability to take down the rifle and conceal it is a big deal, so a big pack has to be part of any BOB kit.
Then you're more into INCH bag sizing rather than a BOB-sized bag
 
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