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Old 03-06-2008, 08:20 AM   #1
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Would YOU stay on your post?

I asked the question regarding staying on your post...one change.

The disaster is AVIAN Influenza as an airborne pandemic, many times worse than 1917/18/19...the morbidity (number of people catching it) but H1N5 has between a 70 to 100% mortality rate!!!

Leave your home and die.

Leave your home and bring it back to your family.

Would you really stay on the job?
 
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:43 PM   #2
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I asked the question regarding staying on your post...one change.

The disaster is AVIAN Influenza as an airborne pandemic, many times worse than 1917/18/19...the morbidity (number of people catching it) but H1N5 has between a 70 to 100% mortality rate!!!

Leave your home and die.

Leave your home and bring it back to your family.

Would you really stay on the job?
Yes..SOMEONE has to I've been incredibly Lucky and had a relatively uneventful career..but they dont pay me for what i DO necessarily, they pay me for what i MIGHT Have to do. As i said previously i have no beef with someone who wants to make sure their family is set, but once done you Get back to work.
 
Old 03-06-2008, 09:05 PM   #3
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I stand by my previous response.
 
 
Old 10-22-2016, 06:52 AM   #4
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Yup, til such time as logistically it becomes impossible to fulfill my job duties.
I figure when it comes to that point if there's any sort of law enforcement still functioning at a supervisory level, they'll disperse remaining officers to their home communities with directives to carry out only limited taskings. If things break down completely and there is no administrative oversight in play, I still have a community that needs people to stand watch in mutual support towards a common defense of the village I reside in currently
 
Old 10-22-2016, 07:14 AM   #5
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that would be 10x worse than Katrina. You will quickly see the futility of trying to do anything but hole up and study 19th century survival stuff.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 08:05 AM   #6
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that would be 10x worse than Katrina. You will quickly see the futility of trying to do anything but hole up and study 19th century survival stuff.
You referring to my post?
Actually I believe that small village sized populations with access to agriculture will be about the right size to keep some sort of society running
Lone wolf types aren't the way to go, despite so many on-line fantasies
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Old 10-22-2016, 10:54 AM   #7
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Hole up as in living underground in a spider hole forever?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 11:00 AM   #8
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why do you lie about what I've said, joe? I've always said it's just for a year, by then, nearly everyone will be dead. Your lack of reading comprehension and lack of honesty does you no good. Those "local groups" will be the ones killing your for your stuff. nobody knows everyone who lives within a day's walk of their home, count on it. few know everyone within 100m of their home, in the cities. Doing so would require keeping track of hundreds of people, every day. not gonna happen.
 
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To most people one day in a spider hole would seem like forever. But with all the drugs you talk about it does not matter.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 04:59 PM   #10
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why do you lie about what I've said, joe? I've always said it's just for a year, by then, nearly everyone will be dead. Your lack of reading comprehension and lack of honesty does you no good. Those "local groups" will be the ones killing your for your stuff. nobody knows everyone who lives within a day's walk of their home, count on it. few know everyone within 100m of their home, in the cities. Doing so would require keeping track of hundreds of people, every day. not gonna happen.
If you live in or immediately near a major metro area, your comment might apply. Its not so relevant to a rural village environment, in my experience.
Sure, it wont be easy. Sure, in the opening hours and days of a major cataclysmic event it would be tough to keep everyone out they didn't want admitted or allowed through. I still say that in the long run, the group will succeed over the lone wolf who ran into the foothills thinking they could go it alone.
 
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you have ZERO experience with such a lethal pandemic, neither has anyone else. you have zero experience with teotwaki, which is what such would CAUSE, without a doubt. When the US goes under, so does every other country in the world. that has never happened before in history, no trade, no help, at ALL. The world has never seen 90% of a population be inept pussies like we have now. The seed is all hybrid, there's no horse drawn implements, we are TOTALLY dependent upon oil, for pesticides, fertilizer, plastics, not just fuel. That's never been the case before, either. We've never had a world wide pandemic that could spread 2000 miles in 24 hours, either(by car) nobody's gonna gaf about speed limits in such circumstances. One guy on a big bike can average 100mph if he just doesn't care about the risks, and many WONT when there's such a disaster.

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Old 10-22-2016, 08:02 PM   #12
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you have ZERO experience with such a lethal pandemic, neither has anyone else...
Agree. And since we have zero experience with anything like that, how do you know exactly what will happen?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 09:08 PM   #13
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Agree. And since we have zero experience with anything like that, how do you know exactly what will happen?
Betcha, he won't figure out how to answer that one!
 
Old 10-23-2016, 01:43 AM   #14
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you have ZERO experience with such a lethal pandemic, neither has anyone else. you have zero experience with teotwaki, which is what such would CAUSE, without a doubt. When the US goes under, so does every other country in the world. that has never happened before in history, no trade, no help, at ALL. The world has never seen 90% of a population be inept pussies like we have now. The seed is all hybrid, there's no horse drawn implements, we are TOTALLY dependent upon oil, for pesticides, fertilizer, plastics, not just fuel. That's never been the case before, either. We've never had a world wide pandemic that could spread 2000 miles in 24 hours, either(by car) nobody's gonna gaf about speed limits in such circumstances. One guy on a big bike can average 100mph if he just doesn't care about the risks, and many WONT when there's such a disaster.
So out of curiosity, what vast experience do you have in TEOTWAWKI that you can attest to exactly what will happen.
We can look at historical precedents to say what MIGHT happen.
In which case there are any number of viewpoints on the topic that are equally as valid as your theory as to what MIGHT happen.
 
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so tell us all the historical perspectives about having nearly everyone be an inept pussy, of not having horsedrawn farm gear, of having all the seed be unable to reproduce (ie, hybrid) of having 80 million starving dogs, of having 10 million scumbag gangmembers, of being totally dependent upon something you can't GET (ie, gasoline, pesticides, herbicides) of having all your crops be unable to resist common pests and weeds. ? it's never happened before, and it's going to be an effing disaster so bad that most will commit suicide rather than face it.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 07:52 AM   #16
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you're dreaming if you think it's going to be anythnig but a complete horror. 70% dead is how many out of 300 million, hmm? what will happen with 200 million dead bodies? It took ww2 5 years to kill 60 millon, they were scattered all over the world, and many were lost at sea. 3x as many dead, in a few months, just in the US, and you "think' it's going to be anything but horrific to the CORE? When people are deathly afraid of catching such a disease from each other, they will scatter to the 4 winds.

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Old 10-23-2016, 12:41 PM   #17
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you're dreaming if you think it's going to be anythnig but a complete horror. 70% dead is how many out of 300 million, hmm? what will happen with 200 million dead bodies? . . . It took ww2 5 years to kill 60 millon, they were scattered all over the world, and many were lost at see. 3x as many dead, in a few months, just in the US, and you "think' it's going to be anything but horrific to the CORE? When people are deathly afraid of catching such a disease from each other, they will scatter to the 4 winds.
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:04 PM   #18
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So gunkid's premise is two-part:
A - Nobody knows what to expect, and
B - He's telling us what to expect.

Gunkid- You genuinely don't see the insanity there?

TC556 - Only advice I can offer is simply to not expect to make logical ground with gunkid. Gunkid is who he is, and chooses to remain contentiously irrational regardless of simple, logical questions and/or observations. He "don't need no stinking logic"; he's the great and powerful gunkid. He's infallible. Just ask him.

{edit - gunkid, I forgot to ask; are those self-inflicted airsoft injuries healing up okay..?}

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Old 10-23-2016, 01:19 PM   #19
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so tell us all the historical perspectives...
I can't. That's actually been my exact question to you repeatedly, if you can remember thru the narco-fog.

I don't have historical precedent for what you're describing, and when I've asked you for some, you've said the exact same thing; that there is no historical precedent.

But unlike a rational being who sees the relationship between cause and effect, you revel in your own logic disconnect. You concede that you have no precedent for the cause, yet claim to be able to micro-predict the effect.

The average housecat has better critical-thinking skills than that.
 
Old 10-23-2016, 01:32 PM   #20
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One problem with that first picture, THERE IS A DOG IN IT! Melvin would be busy kicking it.
Do you get all your ideas from video games?
 
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