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Old 09-01-2016, 06:02 AM   #1
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Barry Miller .44 mag'd a guy in the belly

(S. Africa, in the 70's. ) I dont recall the load he used, but it's not supposed to matter (if it's full charge) The guy dropped, Barry saw his eyeballs roll up. They took the black guy to the hospital and he escaped a few days later. Recaptured some months later, he just had a 1/2" scar, front and back.
 
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:06 AM   #2
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Eyes rolled up, sure put him out of the fight fast didn't it.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:33 AM   #3
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it wasn't even close to fatal, tho

and to be able to run off from it, after a few days, indicates that very little tissue was destroyed, and that the "hittee" was one tough mofo. With a .45 Split Nose, he'd have had TWO wound tracks to try to heal up from, and the much decreased recoil would not have made Barry MISS with one of his double tap shots. and he'd have had it with him, as a LW commander, instead of having to have his wife bring him the big club of .44
 
 
Old 09-01-2016, 07:49 AM   #4
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Kinda agree that most 44s are kinda big but FordPerfect has a 2in 44 mag that is nice. Like to talk him out of it someday. Offered him a 29-2 6 1/2 in. in wood case for it

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Old 09-01-2016, 08:41 AM   #5
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...MISS with one of his double tap shots...
So the shooter missed one shot, made a poor hit with one shot, and still put the bad guy out of the fight instantly. I'll say that again: an instant one-shot stop, even with a poorly placed hit.

And that strikes you as a reason to NOT like the caliber.

Admit it, if this shooting had taken place - with the exact same outcome - with your non-existent splitnose wonder bullets, you'd be using this as an example of how awesome those bullets are, and with perfectly good reason. A poor hit that still gives in an instant one-shot stop is as perfect as handgun performance gets.

And simply because this undeniably perfect performance was achieved without your preferred (and non-available) wonder bullet or your preferred launching platform, you call this perfect performance a bad thing.
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:19 PM   #6
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yeah, it's bad when the pos is so big and heavy that your wife has to bring the gun to you, after you're under attack (Barry had a nunchuku, the black had a machete) It's bad that your wife can't just shoot the pos with the gun. It's bad when the recoil is so severe that it makes you miss your second shot, and it's bad when the pos doesn't DIE, and in fact, is in great shape, to shoot you back, a month or so later. htf do you consider ANY of that to be good?
 
Old 09-01-2016, 02:23 PM   #7
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if the shooting had been committed with my lwc .45 and split noses, barry'd have been wearing it, (since it's no heavier or bulkier than the nunchaku) both shots would have been hits, and the pos would have been DEAD from the 4 wound tracks. so hell yes, that would have been MUCH better. If you can't see THAT, you're seriously weak-minded.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 02:26 PM   #8
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in 3 hours, anyone (who's not as lazy as you fvcks), can have 10 rds of split noses and 10 rds of the epoxy filled bullets, to work up the loads with, prove safety, velocity, and functionality. 5 critters shot with the split noses will convince anyone that I'm correct, but you're too lazy to ever find out. you have ZERO experience with my design, but you're SO sure that you know ALL about it. you're fos.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 03:59 PM   #9
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You drug-taking dolt. Iíve repeatedly asked that you merely be civil, and have simply gotten verbal turds in my face one time too many. So once again, Iíll plainly reply; only this time without the ďbe gentle to the weird, angry kid screaming from the back of the busĒ filter that I usually employ when addressing you.

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yeah, it's bad when the pos is so big and heavy that your wife has to bring the gun to you, after you're under attack (Barry had a nunchuku, the black had a machete) It's bad that your wife can't just shoot the pos with the gun. It's bad when the recoil is so severe that it makes you miss your second shot, and it's bad when the pos doesn't DIE, and in fact, is in great shape, to shoot you back, a month or so later. htf do you consider ANY of that to be good?
So your contention is that the gun was simultaneously too heavy (since he chose not to carry it), and too light (since ďthe recoil is so severe that it makes you missĒ). Dolt.

There's a couple videos I want to point out to you, but since embedding videos in posts here dinks up the formatting, I'll post them separately below. First is a three-inch .44 magnum, six hits on a silhouette in 1.8 seconds, and the second is Miculek with a .44 magnum getting six hits on a reduced silhouette in 1.01 second.

No, Iím not Miculek. But that isnít the gunís fault; the undeniable fact of his demonstration is simply that Ďit can be doneí if the shooter is up to it. Dolt.

On your "pos didnít DIEĒ tantrum, thatís not the job of a self-defense firearm. The job of a self-defense firearm is to stop an attacker. And in the story you told, the .44 revolver not only stopped the attacker, and it not only stopped him with a single poor hit, it stopped him INSTANTLY with a single poor hit. So yes, you dolt, it absolutely performed perfectly.

The fact that the guy later escaped from custody isnít the gunís fault; itís the fault of whoever was supposed to be holding him prisoner to stand trial. Dolt.


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if the shooting had been committed with my lwc .45 and split noses, barry'd have been wearing it, (since it's no heavier or bulkier than the nunchaku) both shots would have been hits, and the pos would have been DEAD from the 4 wound tracks. so hell yes, that would have been MUCH better. If you can't see THAT, you're seriously weak-minded.
Back to the weight thing againÖ You can get a DA revolver thatís more than adequate for defense in the caliber from 25 ounces (which is a quarter-pound less than a lightweight commander, you dolt), on up. You can get bullet weights from 165 grains to over 300. So by way of gun choice (eg, gun-weight choice), you can choose how much of the recoil you want the gun to absorb, and by way of ammo choice you can choose how much recoil you can handle being in the equation to begin with. If you canít handle recoil, so be it. Some of us are men, and some of us are men with a lot of rounds downrange - in this century, you non-shooting dolt.

See Miculekís video below for one example.


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in 3 hours, anyone (who's not as lazy as you fvcks), can have 10 rds of split noses and 10 rds of the epoxy filled bullets, to work up the loads with, prove safety, velocity, and functionality. 5 critters shot with the split noses will convince anyone that I'm correct, but you're too lazy to ever find out. you have ZERO experience with my design, but you're SO sure that you know ALL about it. you're fos.
Holy friggin cow. Twenty (unloaded) bullets in three hours; thatís your recommendationÖ You, who constantly berates those who DO make their own bullets at a rate of more than 400 per hour as ďvaluing our time not at allĒ. Dolt.

Remember John, Iíve actually DONE the epoxy bullet thing and posted the results. Youíve not posted ANY documentation for ANY claims of ANYTHING youíve supposedly done in this century.

On the epoxy-bullet thing, try to understand that just because someone doesnít worship at your perverted altar, doesnít mean that theyíre unfamiliar with it. Pontificating dolt.

And lastly, what conversation with you would be complete without you recommending the killing of something? Scumbag dolt.
 
Old 09-01-2016, 04:01 PM   #10
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Three-inch .44 magnum, six hits in 1.8 seconds:


Before you claim thatís not a reputable source, hereís Miculek getting six hits on a reduced silhouette in 1.01 second:
 
Old 09-02-2016, 09:12 AM   #11
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And once again, no response. Cowardly dolt.
 
Old 09-02-2016, 09:31 AM   #12
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Maybe busy drooling over that 3in. 44Mag.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:05 AM   #13
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That just wouldn't make any sense. The .44 gave an instant one-shot stop, which clearly isn't the desired effect.

Do try to keep up...
 
Old 09-06-2016, 05:38 PM   #14
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And still no response. Sadly predictable and predictably sad...
 
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