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Old 07-06-2016, 04:47 PM   #1
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Kind of a Shotgun...

Does anyone have any first hand experience with these .410/.45LC revolvers that are showing up? I have no inclination to buy one, but I'm kind of intrigued. Practical?
 
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:19 PM   #2
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Never owned one, but a guy let me borrow one & run some loads thru it over a chrono once. I'd read horror stories of ridiculous velocity loss with the .45LC loads due to the massive bullet-jump from cartridge case to forcing cone and wanted to see for myself.

I only had my 2" Taurus 450C to compare it to that day, but the 3" Judge got substantially higher velocity than the 450C did.

200-gr LSWC over 7.3 grains of Bullseye ran 775 from the 450C and 867 from the 3" Judge.

Hornady 185 FTX ran 797 from the 450C and 865 from the Judge. Weirdly, while this load gained velocity compared to the 200-grainer above when fired from the 450C, it actually was slower than the 200-grainer when fired from the Judge. Can't explain it, but that's what it did. All shots were within a few minutes of each other, from the same box of each load.

Personally I have no desire for one, but if a person wanted a tractor gun for snakes, I can see it (maybe) for that application. For personal defense, I'd really have about no use for it. To me, for what it offers it's too heavy, cumbersome and just flat weird.
 
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Fwiw, I almost forgot about this guy testing these a while back; just in case you hadn't already found them.







 
 
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Thanks for the information. Many years ago I was reading a SF Novel called "The Forever War" by Joe Haldeman. In it at one point the Hero of the story armed himself with, you guessed it, a .410 Revolver. I thought Well, that would be interesting. Years later Taurus came out with The Judge. I know a couple of guy's that bought them for their Wives for home defense. Loaded with No. 7 1/2 shot. I handled one once, never fired it. Seemed heavy and not very handy. Still interesting though.
 
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big waste of money. wont be there when needed, cause way too bulky and heavy to ccw. So why bother with it? cause you can't hit what you shoot at with a regular pistol? :-) Something as helpless as a snake? If i was going to bother with a snake load, I'd use epoxy bullets and primer only stuff. Why make all that noise? Such loads quietly take birds, frogs, etc. I've taken a couple of rabbits with similar ammo, Joe witnessed one such occasion. Range was about 3 ft in both cases.
 
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big waste of money. wont be there when needed, cause way too bulky and heavy to ccw. So why bother with it? . .
When did you shoot a Taurus Judge? Just your opinion again? I didn't say it was a great idea, I said it was interesting. Firearms developments have come a long way since you last shot in what? 1980 something? Theory is just that. Hands on is what counts. No one still seen you in action with anything, although you promised a speed draw demonstration with an Airsoft. When's that going to happen?
 
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...Years later Taurus came out with The Judge...
Don't forget the Thunder Five; even weirder than the Judge because it had a manual safety that was almost AR-like. Don't recall exactly when it came out , but I want to say it was the early 90's sometime. IIRC, I first encountered one at the '93 shot show, but not positive on that.
 
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I know a gal who dropped $800 on the carbine version. i"ve seen youtube vid of the carbine taking a cottontail at 40 ft or so, same as a used, $75 single shot could have done, at twice the range.
 
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Don't forget the Thunder Five; even weirder than the Judge because it had a manual safety that was almost AR-like. Don't recall exactly when it came out , but I want to say it was the early 90's sometime. IIRC, I first encountered one at the '93 shot show, but not positive on that.
I did forget about that. I'm going to have to shoot one of these just because.
 
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