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Old 06-01-2016, 01:40 PM   #1
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there's no DA longarms, with one exception

so you have to learn to handle light, short trigger pulls and manipulate safeties anyway. So why bother with a DA trigger or safe action in a handgun? it's just a complication (ie, eff-up) that you dont need.
 
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:50 PM   #3
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I like my DA concealment guns, although I have no illusions that I'm as fast with follow-up shots.

I'm curious what changed your mind..? When Unalist asked for recommendations on pocket 9mm & .45's, you specifically suggested the CM9 and the KelTec 9mm; both DAO's. (Not ragging on those choices at all. The CM9 is one of my most common ccw guns.)
 
 
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the p938 wasn't available yet. Once it was, and once Sig had a .22 unit for it, it was the obvious choice, for somebody with tons of SA auto training. I'm considering the keltec 9 (with the .22 unit) and the CM9 for wifey, tho. She doesn't use a purse and she's quite petite, altho she has big hands (and feet). :-) There just aint that much market for 1911 ccw amongst women students. Probably, she'll have to have a pocket glock too, god help us all
 
Old 06-02-2016, 08:55 AM   #5
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...I'm considering the keltec 9 (with the .22 unit) and the CM9 for wifey, tho...
I've turned into a real CM9 fan. Power of a 9mm, in a gun smaller and lighter than the .380 'deep concealment' guns we had in the past. (This isn't my pic, just one I found):


I started using a +1 magazine after experimenting and finding that it doesn't detract at all from concealability when carried aiwb. So in a gun the size of our old .380's from "back in the day", I'm getting more than double the .380's muzzle energy, and still getting the same 7+1 capacity as my old full-size govt model had way back when. In fact, actually getting more muzzle energy than even the full-size govt model had with my preferred Federal 185JHP carry load. And while the trigger is DA, it's a good DA; better than a lot of revolver triggers.

It's amazing to me sometimes, the advances and advantages we have now over what we had available back then. I've become such a fan of the little Kahr that several years ago for christmas I bought one for one of my sons, to replace the 9x18 he was ccw'ing previously. Awesome little guns when factoring in their size, power, weight, and capacity all together in one package.

Two pivot points on modified K-Rounds aiwb holster let it 'float' & re-position just slightly when sitting, walking, whatever, but still completely secure. They don't offer a velcro-attach option which I prefer; which is why I modified mine:
 
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it hurts pocket draw. pocket guns belong in pocket holsters. The pocket 9's are an advantage cause they can be carried in a pocket. Hand in pocket start for the draw saves the average man at least 1/2 second for the draw and hit. That's 3 more shots you can fire, and 3 less shots the attacker can fire. it's also time for the attacker to notice your gun and stop. tactically, that 'mere" 1/2 second is priceless and anyone throwing it away is a fool.
 
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it hurts pocket draw...
If you mean the +1 magazine does, I agree; no debating that, really.


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...pocket guns belong in pocket holsters...
My pocket gun lives in a pocket holster; it's an LCP with flush magazine. The CM9 with +1 magazine is my iwb gun.

The LCP and CM9 don't appear hugely different in profile. (My lcp doesn't have the pinky-rest mag):


but when looked at from the end, there's a huge and obvious difference:


I could pocket-carry the CM9 instead of the lcp (I briefly carried a glock 26), but I wear jeans six days a week, and the cm9 being bigger, thicker, and with much sharper angles, in very short order creates a worn/discolored print on the pocket where it's carried. The worn print on the jean pocket - even with a pocket holster - pretty much screams 'gun here'; the lcp doesn't do so to anywhere near the same extent. So even though both are covered in the pocket, the lcp is much more truly 'hidden'.
 
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