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Old 11-16-2016, 09:20 AM   #1
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When you consolidate...

With our recent move, Iíve done a lot of organizing of things as well as a fair amount of consolidating of things that had previously been spread over three different locations. It was surprising in some cases to see the full amount of (whatever) in one place. I do keep a spreadsheet of things so I have an updated record, but it took actually seeing it, to get the full impact. Biggest surprise was primers & powder. Probably half of what I have on hand was bought in the last 3-4 months, but I was surprised to see the totals of recently-purchased when combined with what had already been on hand.

One caveat/clarification - for reloading of pistol calibers that use small primers, I personally use small pistol and small rifle primers interchangeably. Itís something I picked up from pistol competitors who were hot-rodding their loads, trying to make Ďmajorí in calibers that werenít really intended for it. Rifle primers are harder, and so donít deform under increased pressure the way that pistol primers do. You have to be careful that your handguns will reliably set off the harder rifle primers, but Iíve never had a problem in glock, M&P or revolvers that Iíve tried them in. And sometimes during panics & such, small rifle primers are available when small pistol arenít. So counting ďprimers used in smallĒ rounds (9mm, .38spl, .357 magnum. 454casull, etc; rounds that use small-size primers), Iím at over 50k, or more than a 5-year supply. Probably more like six.

Unfortunately with the large size, you canít substitute back & forth between large and small which kills some of the convenience; but ďit is what it isĒ as they say. I donít load much large rifle (.308 only), but large pistol (primarily for .45LC and .45acp) Iíve got just a hair under 10k which is probably 4-5 yearsí worth. I donít shoot nearly as much 45 as I do 9mm.

Similar with powder. I was actually off on my spreadsheet, as Iíd failed to log some powder when purchased. So when I consolidated things I was surprised to find that Iíve got more than 60lbs on hand; 40lbs of which is Titegroup and Universal, two of my favorite handgun powders.

With 400 lbs of lead ingoted & ready to cast, and another 400-450 lbs of wheelweights to sort & ingot (and more free wheelweights on a fairly regular basis), I may not buy any more components for several years. Not really meant as a bragging thing, really more of a combination of ďthings pile up surprisingly over timeĒ and ďdang, my wife may have been rightĒÖ
 
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:34 AM   #2
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due to problems with keeping it all legally secured from me having access, it's a lot less, but it no longer is an issue. School loans are going to mean .177 in both pistol and rifle, and airsoft in AR. She'll have plenty of experience with everything but the noise and muzzle jump, and no need to waste time and money on trips back and forth.

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Old 11-16-2016, 10:44 AM   #3
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Whatever it takes to keep shooting; I'd rather shoot those than shoot nothing at all. I've got a .177 BB version of the M&P that I probably haven't put 100 rounds thru in over a year. It might even make a decent option for working on draws & such, and possibly even with a timer if my timer will pick up the sound of a BB hitting a hanging pizza pan or cookie sheet or similar.

One of those things that I haven't tried yet - too much other stuff going on.
 
 
Old 11-16-2016, 10:51 AM   #4
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Up until 4 years ago, my main powders were IMR 4895, W231, Unique & Red Dot covered 98% of all my reloading requirement. 4 years ago I started to get into reloading cast lead rifle bullets and found out that the old rules didn't apply. I have probably purchased over 10 different rifle propellants to find out what works and what doesn't in 6.5x55, .32-40, .38-55 & .30-06. As time goes by I will downsize again.
 
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yeah, this job of hers, to buy her first car, basically, is eating up all of her "spare" time. She's also being tutored in English and full time nursing college. So the karate and shooting got put on "hold" for a while.
 
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Up until 4 years ago, my main powders were IMR 4895, W231, Unique & Red Dot covered 98% of all my reloading requirement. 4 years ago I started to get into reloading cast lead rifle bullets and found out that the old rules didn't apply. I have probably purchased over 10 different rifle propellants to find out what works and what doesn't in 6.5x55, .32-40, .38-55 & .30-06. As time goes by I will downsize again.
Non-magnum handgun constitutes probably 90% of my reloading, and for that I like to stick with Titegroup or Universal as much as possible. I do have others, but they're primarily for the rarer stuff - the magnums, casull, and rifle.
 
Old 11-16-2016, 01:25 PM   #7
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(I really do like Titegroup & Universal. They constitute two-thirds of the powder I have on hand)

 
Old 11-16-2016, 02:31 PM   #8
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Bullseye, Unique, Red Dot, 2400, 700x, Titegroup, CFE, 4895, 4064, 3031, Varget, PB, got it covered pretty good for several years. Lots of primers, lots of lead.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 07:53 AM   #9
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I'm jealous of all your Unique! As for Blue Dot, I'm still working on a 1 lb container I bought 15+ years ago.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 08:48 AM   #10
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Like I said before I don't reload because of a promise I made years ago. Still, I may go a bit overboard with ammo. While digging out shotgun shells for our Pheasant hunt my Son looked at my ammunition locker mostly .223, 9MM, and .45 ACP and said "Dad, PTSD bad. The war's over."
 
Old 11-17-2016, 09:10 AM   #11
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I'm jealous of all your Unique!..
Don't have much Unique; just one lb actually. It's mostly Universal (on the left) and Titegroup (on the right).

I like Unique ok, but the faster-burning Universal gives a lot more rounds-per-pound, and Titegroup gives a LOT more per pound something like 1,840 rounds per pound iirc. If I were shooting for maximized accuracy or terminal performance either one, I might go with other powders; but most of what I shoot is just for fun and drills on steel plates (usually with a timer), so ultimate accuracy isn't really a factor in the equation at all.

Have to be careful with Titegroup and even Universal, because if you're not careful you can double-charge and even triple-charge a case. But my loaders are Lee that use a cavity for powder dropping, so unless I short-stroke and double-ram the same case into the powder die twice, it just can't realistically happen. I do have a VERY well-lit area that I load in, and I'm vigilant about watching that stage (as we should be with every stage when reloading).
 
Old 11-17-2016, 09:13 AM   #12
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...my ammunition locker...
Just one? That's weird...
 
Old 11-17-2016, 09:27 AM   #13
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Well, alright, three and a footlocker. Actually. I bought all three with braced shelving from Menard's. Locking, pretty thick metal, about 76" by 30" by 24." Army footlocker.
 
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my Son looked at my ammunition locker
Seriously, please explain to me how you survive with only 1 ammunition locker...........................oh the horror!
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:51 AM   #15
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Well, alright, three and a footlocker...
Okay; that's better.

(Don't worry us like that... )
 
Old 11-17-2016, 01:58 PM   #16
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I figured as long as I'm going all porny, may as well continue. The next drawer up; the primers:


I prefer cci primers, but REALLY prefer the way remington packages theirs. Look at the little green & orange remington boxes compared to the ridiculously large federal boxes - there's a thousand in each of them, but federal takes up four or five times as much space. That little stack of remington on the left is 15k primers; federals would only fit probably 3k in the same space. That's doofy.
 
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Now I don't feel so bad. Matter of fact I'm pretty much minimalist looking at that.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 03:06 PM   #18
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I bought two of those four-drawer fire-rated lateral file cabinets at an almost ridiculously low price when a local business closed up. Liked them so much that I went back to buy a couple more a couple days later, but they were already all gone by then. One of those 'you snooze, you lose' things, definitely.

(Not showing what's in the other drawers... )
 
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