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Old 08-20-2016, 07:25 PM   #1
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Interesting article in new American Rifleman on page 44
 
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Old 08-21-2016, 08:13 AM   #2
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Segmented Bullet..

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Interesting article in new American Rifleman on page 44
Here's the American Rifleman article on the new segmented bullet.. (No Dremel needed.)
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Old 08-21-2016, 11:05 AM   #3
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In another application I might like the concept, but this load is a little too weak for my tastes, at least for normal personal defensive use. 35-grain projectiles at 1105 fps is like a .22 rimfire from a pistol, so this is effectively like a rimfire triple-tap. Could certainly ruin someone's day, but I'd still prefer a normal 9mm load that has both higher velocity and more mass at the same time.

Like that mfr's are trying new things, though.
 
 
Old 08-21-2016, 11:21 AM   #4
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Sounds like they stole Melvin's idea.
 
Old 08-21-2016, 12:25 PM   #5
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Numerous makers have tried it over the years, and with mostly sad results imo. Triiton tried it with their QuikShok (that iirc cci still offers in rimfire), Winchester had some fragmenting rimfire rounds, there's the Extreme Shock, the Liberty Civil Defense, the G2 RIP, and probably a lot I'm either forgetting or never heard of.

I just don't know if a non-magnum handgun round has the ability to take advantage of multiple projectiles per shot fired, at least with normal bullet materials. With something light and hard like tin or zinc or such, it might be practical since you could drive them crazy fast.

Frankly I think JMD's concept could possibly work fine, and if such a design were commercially available I'd try them out. Not saying I'd adopt them, but I'd give them a try.
 
Old 08-21-2016, 03:24 PM   #6
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my browzer wont blow it up to read it. but it looks like they segmented it crosswise, which is stupid if so. you want the full length of the bullet with each segment.
 
Old 08-21-2016, 03:25 PM   #7
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they dont DARE do the full bore thing, cause it's AP. Alho legal, as long as not made of a prohibited metal, they are scared of teeing off the cops. My wife, however, is NOT. :-)
 
Old 08-21-2016, 03:29 PM   #8
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there is no value whatsoever in such a feeble load. Even in a pocket gun, you can get 500 ft lbs and in a belt gun, you can get almost 800 ft lbs. So wtf settle for a mere 300 ft lbs? And have no temporary cavity effect? the latter varies with bullet diameter. you do need 2200 fps for it to manifest the ability to damage fragile vital organs with a .22 bore, but you need much less velocity to see its effects with a 12 ga slug. 1400 fps and a hollowpoint 12 ga slug will show damage to lung, liver, etc, beyond what the bullet actually crushed. Part of the value of the Split Nose is the temporary cavity's destruction of vital tissue "caught" between the diverging segments.
 
Old 08-21-2016, 04:04 PM   #9
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my browzer wont blow it up to read it. but it looks like they segmented it crosswise...
It's in thirds across the tip like the quick-shock was. Three 'petals' break apart radially, leaving the base as a blunt slug being the fourth piece. My earlier post's numbers were wrong because I didn't allow for the weight of the base piece. The three petal segments would be even lighter than I allowed, more like 20 grains or so each rather than 35 grains. And considering that the bullet would have to be at less than muzzle velocity by the time the petals broke off to begin with, they'd be more like a triple-tap with 22 shorts than 22LR.
 
Old 08-22-2016, 05:26 AM   #10
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Yeah, it'll go no place, cause it's feeble. The nose pcs lack enough energy to get more than 1-2" of penetration. and they won't diverge from the path of the main body of the slug. When you've got 2 pretty powerful chunks (250-400 ft lbs each) they ARE capable of adequate penetration and WILL diverge, each one creating its own wound path.
 
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