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Old 06-09-2016, 06:12 PM   #1
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Reloading

How many people here currently do it? If so do you normally reload with FMJ style projectiles or cast lead projectiles for the majority of your loads?
 
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Old 06-09-2016, 06:21 PM   #2
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Depending on cartridge and need mostly JHP or JSP. The two specific differences from the norm would be FMJ or plated for pistol range use and BTHP Match for rifle for longer distance.
 
Old 06-09-2016, 06:51 PM   #3
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I load only handgun-caliber stuff, for use in both handguns and carbines; 9mm, 45acp, 45LC, .454, .38spl, and .357 magnum.

Lower-end stuff I use lead or plated bullets usually. For magnum stuff or stuff meant for carbine use, I use JHP's or JSP's, depending on what it's being used in and what it's for use on.
 
 
Old 06-09-2016, 06:54 PM   #4
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I rarely reload jacketed ammo any more, only if the match or range specifies it. Most of my reloading in the past 5 years has been cast, in both pistol and rifle. As a matter of fact I ordered a .30-06 mould from Buffalo Arms yesterday.
 
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9mm, 38 super, 38spl, 357, 400 CorBon, 45acp, 45LC, 44 mag. 223, 308
Cast in pistol , some jacketed for carry loads. Jacketed only in rifles.
Used to load a lot more calibers an shotgun but downsized several years ago.
Due to age,shoot a lot of 38 an 45LC these days. 45acp an 9mm get a lot of use to but starting to leave a lot of older brass laying there.
44 Mag. with 240-250 gr. bullet loaded with 10gr. Unique hurts these old hands. Getting to the point where no longer can shoot double action. 45s with heavy springs are a problem to operate slide. 70 year old body wearing out, just about gave up bass fishing, shoulders will not take all that casting, hour or two is enough. Going to keep shooting as long as I can.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 05:25 AM   #6
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joe, google for trigger point massage therapy. give it a chance, takes a month sometimes, but massively helpful. library book, by that name, Clair davies is the author, teaches you to do it yourself
 
Old 06-10-2016, 05:43 AM   #7
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John, know what makes me feel real old? Daughter is going to be 45 tomorrow.
 
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mine is 6, glad i waited. :-) got to skip the diapers and bawling part. she's a sweet, smart, tough kid. she's been raised to scorn "rich kids", but now she IS one. (relative to prior life, before I began sending money to her grandma for the family's upkeep). next week, she starts at the "rich kid school" for internationals, learning in English, swimming, lots of stuff. NINE books for a 6 year old. sheesh.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 06:42 AM   #9
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I pretty much only reload for things I can't readily buy, or can produce tangibly cheaper. I also try to stay away from quantities of exposed or airborne lead these days.

Pretty much stick to high end match loads, cheap "good enough" match loads, and some subsonic stuff. Generally all an SMK of some kind. There's no real cost savings for most things I shoot at present, unless it's a precision rifle.

Sometimes I'll play with chamber pressure, muzzle pressure, and burn rate curves using FMJ or other projectiles for certain barrels or curiosity, occasionally with personally added cannelures on the later.

One day I'm going to mess with turning precision projectiles on a screw machine but there are some FL specific and ATF regulations for what I want to do even though I don't consider it AP, and I didn't go for a type 10 so it's so far on the back burner as being a costly waste of time that it may never happen.

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Old 06-10-2016, 07:56 AM   #10
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it's very rare for the cheapest ammo to be anything like as cheap as components. when you look around, you can find pulled, blemished, or overrun fmj 223 for 6-7c per rd. powder, given 25 grs per shot, for 223 is 250 or so shots per lb. Say 12c per shot for powder, . 3c per primer. To get a reloadable brass case. This sort of pricing can be set up for any centerfire rd and steel cased throwaway stuff aint available in every caliber, and it's well proven to be hard on the gun, too. and the powder used in such ammo STINKS to high heaven! my god.

the real savings is casting, if you get the lead cheaply enough, and if you can get a tumble-lube sort of bullet to work, or drop the money for a Star Progressive sizer machine, which is about $500. The 6 cavity lee molds are very low cost and good quality, easy to cast with, but you want a propane fired plumber's furnance, a BiG side-pour spot ladle and a big cast iron pot, about 100 lbs of lead, say 8" square. roughly. Then you can turn out 500 finished bullets per hour, saving yourself 7c per bullet (average between .36 bore and .45) That's $35 an hour. then if you set up to load 600 rds per hour, with a Dillion, you save another 4-5c each, paying you $30 an hour. If you shoot more than a very few thousand rds per year, you can pay off the set up costs in one year. You can make side money selling cast bullets, too. I've made a bit of money selling reloads, too, but most people are too scared of their shadows to do that.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 07:58 AM   #11
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when you can average a savings of 10c each, and do so at the rate of 300 per hour, that's worth doing. and with it comes the ability to assemble "special" stuff. I can't consider any non-reloader knowledgable enough to listen to anything they say about guns. you just don't shoot enough to know anything.
 
Old 06-11-2016, 10:04 AM   #12
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I get brass cased 9mm and M193 for something like $0.18 and $0.26 shipped, respectively; not blemish / remanufactured either. I don't shoot WWB or things in its class anymore, I've seen too many people get hurt and pieces get damaged.

There's also additional time factors involved with reloading, such as brass pick up, inspection of incoming materials, and shopping around for deals worth taking. It doesn't cross my cost benefit threshold unless I'm saving at least $1 a round, making a specific load, or having fun with something.

There's he opportunity cost of, taking your number, what's $35 of your time substituted for? It's different things for different people.

There is huge savings in high-volume casting, but I'm not down with the health risks. I can definitely see it with the Cowboy stuff, especially in those recently-deemed obscure cartridges.
 
Old 06-11-2016, 04:16 PM   #13
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...I can't consider any non-reloader knowledgable enough to listen to anything they say about guns.
I know what you mean. In my younger years when I drove a truck, it was common knowledge that the truly competent drivers experimented with and formulated their own fuel.

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Old 06-11-2016, 08:07 PM   #14
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Reloading in volume does lend itself to those that have lots of discretionary time. I'm retired, I have the time. Early in my time load reloading with cast lead, I came down with severely elevated blood lead levels 3 times. I no longer shoot on indoors and wear latex gloves during all processes except actually shooting out doors. I have not had a reoccurrence in the last 14 years.

I just recently started reloading 9mm for the first time in 18 years. We are attending a match in October where cast lead is specified, this is the only reason I am reloading it. With the cost of bulk 9mm & 5.56mm these days I generally don't find it economically viable to reload those calibers, same as 12 gauge. I load about 10 other calibers with lead though and still find it cheaper than buying factory ammo.
 
Old 06-12-2016, 11:41 AM   #15
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I don't reload, never did. I was lucky enough as a firearms instructor to shoot an incredible amount of ammunition as part of my job. Now I just buy bulk. Due to a windfall I bought enough ammunition for my needs. Now I just pretty much top it off.
 
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