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Old 09-07-2016, 07:03 AM   #1
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yeah, Split Noses require u to make your own

which, since you're so inept/lazy, means that they "dont exist". :-)
 
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:36 AM   #2
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Yawn, split bullets, not again.
 
Old 09-07-2016, 08:18 AM   #3
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yeah, Split Noses require u to make your own which, since you're so inept/lazy, means that they "dont exist". :-)
Now, be nice. You're the one who said that making our own bullets means that our time must be worth nothing...

On the exotic-bullet/custom-bullet thing, once again itís a mistake to assume that simply because people donít worship what youíre saying, that they donít understand what youíre saying.
You forget that I've already done similar and posted the results; a decade ago or so in fact. Remember (or maybe you don't) that I posted chronograph results of more than 2,400 fps from .45LC, using (iirc) an 81-grain bullet. Also got over 2,200 fps from a 4Ē .357 revolver; I forget the bullet weight, but it was very light.

On your bulletís specifics, sometimes you talk about a tin splitnose and sometimes itís a copper splitnose Ė which is it?

Also donít forget that Cirillo and some partner came out with a very similar design that they called the ďSafeStopĒ a number of years ago that failed spectacularly. After his pin grabber bullets came out, he came out with the "felon grabber", which was basically the pin grabber with - you guessed it - a crosscut split nose. A slit across the top from one side to another.

After that, he came out with his 'ultimate' bullet; the SafeStop. It wasnít as light as yours, but very similar Ė a hollow-based, split-nose, all-copper bullet with a cannelure-type groove to facilitate separation:


So it's not that we're necessarily unaware of what you're saying, or that it's too much work. Frankly, it's just too little return.

As far as being inept and lazy, some of us have posted actual documentation (pictures, videos, etc) of what we can do. Stop telling and start showing, if you can.
 
 
Old 09-07-2016, 11:03 AM   #4
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Melvin, with you lack of accomplishments, you have provided proof that you are the one that is lazy & inept!
 
Old 09-07-2016, 03:24 PM   #5
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Inverted HBWC will work.
 
Old 09-07-2016, 06:13 PM   #6
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Don't get me wrong-I LIKE single material bullets(solid copper,hard cast lead with a Nyclad type coating etc). I just tend to favor the simpler design principles: middleweight to heavy for caliber,loaded warm-to-hot (depending on gun/caliber combination); generally the Buffalo Bore/Underwood type HCFP.. are they perfect? Nope. Nothing is. But I DO trust them AND my ability to get hits under stress to work for my purposes.
Hey,they're relatively simple to manufacture compared to more modern or technologically complex designs. Which DOES affect pricing. Which gives me value for cost.
 
Old 09-07-2016, 06:21 PM   #7
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if bullet cost for saving your life is an issue, I suggest that you move out of the Middle East, or chicago, whichever. inverted hbwc tumbles about 1 in 3 shots, giving very little penetration. They require 900 fps to expand reliably and at that speed, there's a tendency to tear out chunks of the bullet in the forcing cone. The original reasoning behind the creation of the hydroshok post was not to increase expansion. It was done to get the weight forward enough, i n the hbwc design, to stop the keyholing of the ass-heavy bullet.

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Old 09-07-2016, 06:28 PM   #8
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I never got into the inverted HBWC. They would be devastating at an arms reach,but I don't have any extended experience with them to try them for accuracy. I guess if an open point you can mix a drink in is the primary focus(arms reach to 7yards) they'll do for you;but outside of a Bulldog type revolver....yeah,theyre interesting but kind of a niche loading.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 03:49 PM   #9
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they are a bad joke, actually. They went obsolete with the advent of supervel.
 
Old 09-14-2016, 04:43 PM   #10
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Split nose is against the Geneva Conventions
 
Old 09-14-2016, 04:50 PM   #11
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I believe it might be the Hague Accords/Convention.
 
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