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Old 07-29-2016, 01:52 PM   #1
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subsonic .22lr in a rifle, grievous wounds, 200m

maybe not immediately lethal and maybe stopped by heavy clothing, but not a joke. If he's got a rangefinder, or is good at estimation, aims at the top of your head, etc, the odds of your getting a mortal wound are high. 200m is a long damned ways in the dark. If he's got luminous sights and NVD's, he can get within effective range of you, despite your .50 bmg.
 
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:12 PM   #2
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It's been a long time ago, but I used to shoot my .22's at ranges from 130 to 240 yards, mostly using remington subsonics in both my CZ452 and my 16" car-15. Don't recall the exact numbers, but the bullet drop got crazy on anything beyond 150 or so; and got ridiculously steep ridiculously fast. Again, from memory so I may be off some, but it was something like 20" at 150 yards, 60" at 200 yards, and 120 or something at 250 yards. After 150 or so, it drops like a mortar round or something.

IIRC, it was down to something like 30-40 ft/lbs at 200, but I may be wrong on that as well.

So a drop of around 5 feet (better aim 2-3 feet above his head, not at his head), wind-drift of who knows what, and the energy of a .22 short or so if it does connect. It could certainly hurt and in a 'perfect storm' kind of hit could potentially kill (just as a marble from a slingshot could), but "grievous" wounding capability seems over-optimistic imo.

And the numbers I ran way back then were from a relatively normal rifle barrel; from a compact 10" carbine, the results would be even worse.
 
Old 07-29-2016, 08:07 PM   #3
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Did'n't say EYE'd be doing it, If I thought it was just you half dozen ****s reading this, I'd not bother with this site at all, and I DID say aim at the head, etc" meaning adjustments would be required. So it's "only" 170m, so what?

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Old 07-29-2016, 08:08 PM   #4
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pellet guns have been known to be fatal, with 20 ft lbs and less. .22 bullet embedded "only" 2" in your guts, shtf and no med care, will probably be the death of you, even if "all" it does is render you unable to fend off the next threat, a day or so later. you'll still be dead and the .22 hit will be the reason.
 
Old 07-30-2016, 06:04 AM   #5
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...EYE'd...
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:20 AM   #6
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Let's see, your opponent has a .50 BMG rifle which it can be assumed has a state-of-the-art sighting system. Let's face it, you don't invest in a .50 with rounds $3.00 to $4.00 a pop and but a Wal-Mart scope. You. being the aggressor, choose a 10.5 inch carbine and load it with .22 LR sub-sonic rounds and proceed to make your way to 200 Meters to engage your foe. What's wrong with this picture?
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:20 PM   #7
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Geez, an old guy like me could smoke Melvins butt at 300 yds with a 101 year old bolt action sevice rifle and I would still have 100 yds on him!
 
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