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Old 02-11-2016, 12:16 PM   #1
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gf blew a frog out of the water, 223 sp

it flew about 15 ft and was DOA. She was IMPRESSED. :-) varmint 223 sp's sometimes blow 1.5" ID holes in coyotes's chests, when a rib is hit. it's an AMAZINGLY effective little rd, if you use it properly. I'd rather be hit by an AK ball rd, any day, than a 223 sp, even without the bone hits. wow. that effing thing is NO joke, man. But the varmint sp's don't penetrated adequately on men or deer. You have to go with the heavier "premium" sps or hp's, designed for use on deer/coyotes, not the ones designed to blow up in a crow or a prairie-dog.

I had a frontal shot on a dog, years ago, 50 gr Hornady SX sp, at 3000 fps from a 222 Remington M788. If it had not hit him in t he throat, he'd have run off, cause what I got was a 1" ID crater, 1" deep.. A friend shot one in the ribs and had to chase it clean across the county, found it soaking its wound in a creek and temple hit it. So you definitely CAN screw up by using the wrong bullets in the 223.

that sx bullet would turn rabbits inside OUT, man. see more guts than fur, I"m not kidding. It would not exit a chuck, but it killed them instantly. you could tell where you hit a bird, by which direction the remaining body parts "flew". I killed a crow so dead that he hung upside down from his perch, unable to let go even in death. There was a puddle of guts on the ground under him.

But i have no practical experience, just ask Garand about that.
 
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:34 PM   #2
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I knew this one dude in High School that had more book sense than common sense.

So one day he wanted to go squirrel hunting.

Was told he needed a ".22".

So what does he take???

His Father's Ruger Mini-14! In .223!

Bang! And "Squirrel Dust" everywhere according to him.
 
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not true with ball ammo, for a fact, unless dumb enough to shoot it thru the hams. :-) The frog in the case above was unmarked. I had her aim just under him. the range was like 30 ft, braced over the guardrail of a bridge. the line of sight and line of bore difference put the bullet a bit lower. of course.
 
 
Old 02-11-2016, 03:35 PM   #4
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I have no idea what ammo he used probably a SP or HP varmint bullet at close range.

You've been around the Ozarks and in Red Oak country enough to know how close up you can get to a Squirrel at times. I imagine there was some chunky stuff but what did explode is what got his attention.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 05:46 PM   #5
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it takes a bit of flesh to make the ball bullet yaw and frag and a squirrel aint enough. :-) so, yes, it was a hp or sp. and not a deep penetrating one, at that. 40-50 gr Walmart stuff, most likely.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 09:01 PM   #6
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Probably was.

That was around 1983 and the Wal-Marts here used to carry a brand called Ozark Custom. White 50rd box they had 55gr FMJ and standard SP plus IIRC a JHP that may have been 50gr.

Preston was a smart dude but sometimes he could be a real cut up with the things he pulled like that.
 
Old 02-12-2016, 02:35 AM   #7
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well, i've done similar stuff dozens of times, but I wasn't after the meat. When I was young, I was just a bloodthirsty shyte. Squirrels are just tree rats, after all.
 
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