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Old 07-11-2016, 04:52 PM   #1
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10 grs Unique, 165 gr hollowbased jhp

achieved 1400 fps in a regular 1911 for dean Grinell, in 1969. He swaged those bullets himself. No .460 Rowland cases, no heavy springs, no fully supported barrel.
 
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:54 PM   #2
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https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=230


http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005...allistics.html
 
Old 07-11-2016, 05:00 PM   #3
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Tried to buy any Unique lately? Took a lot of looking to get 2 8lb. jugs an 12 1 lb. cans. Use lots of it. 6.6 with a 200 swc in 45 acp, 8 gr in 45 long colt, 10 gr in 44mag with 250 gr swc, 5.5 with 150 to 170 gr swc in 38 spl. 4.5 with 9mm shoots great out of all my 9mm. Don't use it in 357, that gets 14.5 - 15gr of 2400
 
 
Old 07-11-2016, 05:02 PM   #4
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$33.87 for 20 rounds! Give me a break!
 
Old 07-11-2016, 05:10 PM   #5
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when you can get 165 grs to 1450 fps (safely) in a Commander, why not 70 grs to 2300 fps, hmm? :-) Especially with the advantage of an extra 2 grs of powder that fits in a huge conical base cavity. you wind up using so much Bullseye that it petrifies most reloaders to think about it. (think 11+ grs in the .460 case) but the really lw bullets get moving so easily that the firing-pressures drop like a rock. having a 4" .44 mag's 800 ft lbs on tap, with LESS recoil than .45 ball, in an alloy Commander seems surreal, but it's quite feasible to attain with the hollowbased, solid copper 70 gr hp .45 bullet. The skirts of the hollowbased bullet compress easily as the bullet goes down the rifling, which reduces pressures, too. There's very little of the bullets sides in contact with the rifling.


Removing 1" of the rifling in front of the chamber, allows the hollowbase (hb) skirts to open wider, letting the bullet get moving even easier, allowing the use of much more powder, getting about 950 ft lbs out of a commander, (70 grs at 2450 fps), while retaining the same recoil as .45 ball ammo. The blast and flash are stupendous, of course. The ignorant are 'certain" that this can't be done, but the facts show otherwise.

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Old 07-11-2016, 05:16 PM   #6
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200 gr. Hensley & Gibbs #68 will do anything I want a 45 to do. Cast, lube, load, shoot. No dremel, hacksaw needed.
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:21 PM   #7
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If need something a little more weight there is the 230 TC Lee bullet but if tumble lubed they lead the heck out of a barrel.
 
Old 07-11-2016, 05:23 PM   #8
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dont want unique, don't want bullet weight, either. Bullseye is what's needed for the velocities stated, unique wont even move the slide with these super lw bullets. Fact is, for what you're doing in Ill, a .22lr is about right. why bother with any centerfire? it's just tin cans, anyway. A suppressed .22 would be perfect for the job.
 
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What job?
 
Old 07-11-2016, 06:07 PM   #10
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Bull is for light target loads.3.2 with any 38 bullet.
If I want a light weight bullet, a 40 gr. 22 will do. Or a 55 gr.HornadaySP out of AR
 
Old 07-11-2016, 06:10 PM   #11
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ALL my Unique loads cycle auto slides just fine. Hey, guess what, they also work in revolvers.
 
Old 07-11-2016, 06:36 PM   #12
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not with hollowbased 70 gr hp's, they wont. Doesn't matter what you hit tin cans with, joe. .22 works fine. so does airsoft. this thread is about max-effective defensive ammo.
 
Old 07-11-2016, 06:41 PM   #13
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Lot of people do not want to waste time making stuff like that, rather be out shooting.
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:45 PM   #14
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max-effective defensive ammo., in a airsoft?
 
Old 07-12-2016, 06:42 AM   #15
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training is training. and plinking is plinking.
 
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training is training. and plinking is plinking.
True. You've said you'd show us what you can do...
 
Old 07-12-2016, 07:32 AM   #17
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when a load makes as much difference as the Split Nose does, it's the best time-spent you'll ever have.
 
Old 07-12-2016, 07:53 AM   #18
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Split-Nose Stockpiling..

Rumor has it that BBM is using his favorite jack knife to modify his stash of 20,000 AirSoft rounds into split-nose killers so that he'll be ready when SHTF happens..
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:10 AM   #19
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ask Joe what he thinks about what I might do if you said something like that to my face.
 
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Rumor has it that BBM is using his favorite jack knife to modify his stash of 20,000 AirSoft rounds into split-nose killers so that he'll be ready when SHTF happens..
"BBM"..?


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ask Joe what he thinks about what I might do if you said something like that to my face.
Ooh, ooh; I know this one. "Shoot all bystanders", right?

You know John, some of us lift weights, do manual work, and shoot guns on a regular basis; and that may be part of why we aren't particularly intimidated by the random internet threats of self-proclaimed 40lb-overweight senior citizens. Just something to think about...
 
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