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Old 09-17-2016, 04:35 PM   #1
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What would say is the best/least expensive .22?

Gripper got me thinking about .22 handguns when we were discussing the HP .22's. I've always had a "thing" for .22 revolver's and pistols, so I have a bunch. As far as price, I don't know any that you could call inexpensive and still get some sort of quality. Your Ruger's, Bersa's, S&W's, etc. will all tear the Hell out of $300.00 plus. Heck, the CZ Kadet Kit slide cost $400.00. If I had to pick one that was (relatively) low priced an was accurate and reliable, I would say the Taurus M94 9 shot would be it. Moderate price would be the Ruger SR22 and the Bersa Thunder 22. My most accurate is a Ruger MKII 6 7/8", but a comparable one is probably over the $400.00 make, but I could be wrong on that. Maybe the best thing to do if your looking for a knock around .22 is haunt the gun shows, but even their you probably won't win big.
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:34 AM   #2
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Versa always gave good value. My sole complaint regarding them is the lack of larger sized,steel framed guns;but we've already acknowledged that particular quirk on my part.
 
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What is a 3.5" Beretta M71 in .22 worth in the US?
 
 
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Around $275.00, in VG condition.
 
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Up here it would be between $375-$450 (cdn).
 
Old 09-18-2016, 07:25 PM   #6
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Walther P22 is not bad, interchangeable backstraps, 5in barrel with slide extension, laser, barrels are threaded, good sights, magazines are cheap. Had one for a long time but let it get away. New ones have a better slide.
 
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The .22 handgun has just 3 uses, silenced( shtf duty, correcting problems that arise before shtf, and for novices to learn with. A silenced, takedown .22lr auto-rifle, might be worth having, if you can't afford a properly set up, silenced AR15 and .22 unit for same. Practicing with one doesn't help me any more than airsoft would so why spend 10x as much and make a trip to the range? There's still no recoil, so what advantage of the .22 over the airsoft, for training? If you push your draw to the ragged edge of speed, you'll get a shot down your leg, and .22, so located, can really mess you up. :-)
 
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Hey asshole, read the topic,it is about 22 pistols not a damm 10in. AR
 
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The .22 handgun has just 3 uses, silenced( shtf duty, correcting problems that arise before shtf, and for novices to learn with...
Plus hunting and recreation. Can't help it if you don't believe in the concept of recreation, but you yourself have talked about hunting with the .22 handgun.
 
Old 09-19-2016, 05:25 AM   #10
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still a .22, jerkoff and I posted a HELLUVA lot more about .22 handguns than you did.
 
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that's part of silenced shtf duty and fixing problems before shtf. I believe in recreation, but first you have to have done something to be re-creating from, create before -re-create, understand basic English?
 
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To me there is only 3 perfect 22s, The Smith model 34, the model 17, the model 18.
 
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The .22 handgun has just 3 uses, silenced( shtf duty, correcting problems that arise before shtf, and for novices to learn with. A silenced, takedown .22lr auto-rifle, might be worth having, if you can't afford a properly set up, silenced AR15 and .22 unit for same. Practicing with one doesn't help me any more than airsoft would so why spend 10x as much and make a trip to the range? There's still no recoil, so what advantage of the .22 over the airsoft, for training? If you push your draw to the ragged edge of speed, you'll get a shot down your leg, and .22, so located, can really mess you up. :-)
Did you ever think about just plain fun with one?
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that's part of silenced shtf duty and fixing problems before shtf.
No, squirrel hunting in normal times has nothing to do with "shtf duty" or "fixing problems". It's about squirrel hunting.

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...I believe in recreation, but first you have to have done something to be re-creating from, create before -re-create, understand basic English?
I do understand basic English. I was also being polite. I neither did nor said anything rude, hostile or confrontational, but being polite is evidently neither recognized nor appreciated by you. So once again, by virtue of juvenile, reflexive reactions rather than reasoned, thoughtful responses, you’ve managed to contort yourself into verbally licking your own anus in public. Congratulations.

Have you done anything to warrant recreation or reward? I have, as have most non-parasitic grownups. I employ multiple people; so my work feeds multiple families. That warrants a reward. I volunteer 6-20 hours in any given week to community organizations. That kind of warrants a reward. I pay thousands every month in taxes, so my money pays for schools, roads, and prescription hallucinogens for drug-addled ex-convicts. That certainly warrants a reward.

Therefore, recreation is a valid category and consideration in my life.

Is it in yours? To be more direct – I listed the things that make recreation & reward valid in my life. What have you done recently that warrants recreation or reward? You brought it up – you say that you believe in recreation and that recreation requires ‘having done something’ to warrant it. Most grownups do so on a regular basis; heck, even trained monkeys do things that warrant a reward.

So – what have you done recently to warrant recreation or reward in your life? Are you as useful even as a trained monkey?
 
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that same fun can be had with airsoft and .177, , so why pay 10x as much per shot for .22, have to go to the range, have to wear ear protection and not be able to go man vs man, hmm? you have no answer.
 
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Even kids outgrow airsoft. A BB gun can be useful sometimes, I use one to chase geese out of my yard cause it does not hurt them. An no I do not want to kill them just get them moving along.
 
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that same fun can be had with airsoft and .177, , so why pay 10x as much per shot for .22, have to go to the range, have to wear ear protection and not be able to go man vs man, hmm?
I've shot airsoft, and no, it's not "the same fun" as a .22 is; I'm surprised that you don't know the difference. You should really get some familiarity with the subjects you preach on.

And while I confess I've never tried to squirrel hunt with airsoft, it sounds like a losing proposition.


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you have no answer.
Just gave you two. How about giving one yourself?

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...I listed the things that make recreation & reward valid in my life. What have you done recently that warrants recreation or reward? You brought it up – you say that you believe in recreation and that recreation requires ‘having done something’ to warrant it. Most grownups do so on a regular basis; heck, even trained monkeys do things that warrant a reward.

So – what have you done recently to warrant recreation or reward in your life?
 
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Up here it would be between $375-$450 (cdn).
Garand, Gun Broker has them listed with a "permanently attached fake suppressor" for $250.00. Why would anyone want a permanent fake suppressor?

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Old 09-19-2016, 06:29 PM   #19
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Garand, Gun Broker has them listed with a "permanently attached fake suppressor" for $250.00. Why would anyone want a permanent fake suppressor?
I have no idea? 3 years ago the GSG .22 was introduced up here with fake suppressors. For the first 6 months at gunshows up here the police were going crazy arresting innocent dealers because they didn't know what they were looking at. I guess the fake suppressor allows the "Melvin" types around the world to think they are tough
 
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I think,in some cases; permanently attached fake suppressors(which I hate BTW) are a cheaper way to make minimum legal barrel/OAL length .. I would rather an actual barrel be made,but many companies either lack the proper tooling or don't want the expenditure involved.
Several years back I wondered why some interesting PPSh41 semi auto carbines never really sold. That was one of the reasons-they merely welded on a barrel extension. QC,apparently was no more one of their skills than making new Shpagin barrels with a 16 inch length .
With handguns,its probably the hangover from CCA1968(" cheap" handguns,import points etc).
 
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