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Old 09-03-2016, 08:53 AM   #1
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Another 938 failure

This time it is the 938-22, back to SIG for a broken extractor, this **** is getting old. Time to sell both an forget about Sigs. Wasted a lot of time, money, ammo on them. Heard there is a new design in the works, hope they do not **** it up as bad. Quality control is not part of Sig since they started making them in this country.
On second thought, might make a good gun for Melvin, at least he could not shoot himself with one.
 
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Old 09-03-2016, 12:39 PM   #2
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The 938 is such a shame. I really like small 9mm carry guns, and sig has had a good reputation for decades; sad to see such a poor product from what has historically been such a good company.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 03:28 PM   #3
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should have dumped it for the Kimber, months ago. The ducktail tang makes a world of difference in the handling, or so wifey says. :-) No way for me to know for sure, of course.
 
 
Old 09-03-2016, 03:55 PM   #4
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since when did they leave the beavertail off the 938?
 
Old 09-03-2016, 04:29 PM   #5
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P938's frame tang is not nearly as high up behind the hammer as the one on the Micro 9
 
Old 09-03-2016, 04:35 PM   #6
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you can't expect an aluminum framed pocket 9mm to be any more durable than the airweight snubbie. If you put 1000 rds of plus P .38 ammo thru the M37, you'll need a new one. Like I said, practice mostly with a lwc 9mm, and a few hundred rds per year of 125 grs, 800 fps wussy loads in the pocket 9. Then it'll last you 10 years. But if you put 1000 rds of plus p thru that pocket 9mm every year, don't expect it to last long. The polymer framed ones do better. Kahr knew this 20 years ago, which is why they never marketed an alloy framed version of their pocket 9mm's.

I wish the Kimber Micro 9 was polymer framed, actually. Also wish it had a mag release like the Citation military high standard. If you need a fast mag swap and all you have is a pocket auto, god help you! What's more important is that the mag is not inadvertantly "dropped" while carrying the gun in a front pants pocket holster.

the .22 not working, tho, surely IS an indictment of Sig's lack of quality control. People SHOOT .22's (a lot) and so makers of same BETTER build in some durability and reliability, or the lack of same will hurt their rep, for sure.

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Old 09-03-2016, 05:34 PM   #7
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I shoot a model 36, a 60 an a 649, steel frame. Save the airweights, 638, 438, 37 for carry. Also shoot a 317 a lot.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 05:40 PM   #8
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I am and always have been biased against aluminum frames...the sole exception was my old Ruger P90...but truth be told,there's ALWAYS a penalty in durability-with the smaller guns (or the open slides of Beretta M92 types) aggravating the impact damage whenever service calibers are used.
Even my favored pocket caliber,the 9x18? Works MUCH better in steel frames like P64/83's,Makarovs or CZ82's. PA63's? They're slick,but meant to be " carried a lot,shot VERY little" -even with lukewarm ammo.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 05:47 PM   #9
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My lightweight commander does not get shot as much as my steel frames.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 05:50 PM   #10
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Light to carry has it's good points...but FWIW I'm enough of an OCD type on the subject to prefer steel in anything hotter than a .32ACP.... even a locked breech gun.
 
Old 09-04-2016, 08:03 AM   #11
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if you make my modification to the frame and mainspring housing, an alloy 9mm 1911 Commander will last for 10's of thousands of rds. Unless you're using 160 lrn at 1100 fps, the 9mm doesn't even remotely stress a gun that's well proven to stand up to 50,000 rds of full charge .45 loads. If you can afford to shoot 10,000 rds, which is $2000, you can certainly also afford to occasionally replace a $200 alloy frame.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 09:19 AM   #12
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938-22 came back Friday, now have to decide if I want to test it or just dump it. Hard to believe the prices they are getting around here, seen is shops for $719
 
Old 09-18-2016, 09:56 AM   #13
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I'd be tempted to dump it, pick up a CM9 or PM9, and pocket the difference. Never used the Kimber micro-9, but heard too many kimber horror stories from friends over the last few years to trust any new kimber without a lot of testing.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 11:22 AM   #14
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Light to carry has it's good points...but FWIW I'm enough of an OCD type on the subject to prefer steel in anything hotter than a .32ACP.... even a locked breech gun.
Melvin, we are allowed own likes and dislikes even if there is an alternative. Personally I like my guns made of wood & steel and not plastic and alloy. Get over it.
 
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It is a shame about the 938, I handled one and thought it would be a great back up gun. Unfortunately, like the Kimber, looks can be deceiving.
 
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Light to carry has it's good points...but FWIW I'm enough of an OCD type on the subject to prefer steel in anything hotter than a .32ACP.... even a locked breech gun.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought you recommended the aluminum commander in 9mm..?
 
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